Drill advice

southernscouser

I've currently got this cordless power drill.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Decker-EPC18CA-18-Volt-Cordless/dp/B001T0HETK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343938687&sr=8-1

It's generally not bad but struggles with masonry.

I'm looking for a new one and saw B&D's multi tool.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Decker-MFL143K-Multi-Tool-Screwdriver/dp/B004XVMXD4/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1343939493&sr=1-1

Now the jigsaw and sander would be great to have, but am I compromising the drill for these extras. I assume I'd be better off just buying these seperate?

How does this drill compare to the first link, the one I already have? :think:

http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/power-tools/drilling-screwdriving/drilling/cordless/Black-and-Decker-Autoselect-18V-Lithium-Hammer-Drill-12327502

hareng

Multi tools arent usually the way to go unless you have to.
Multi tool for starters will be a lot worse than current drill as its only a 14.4Volt against your current 18Volt 1.2A (low)

For comparison i would easily drill 12 off 1/2" holes in brick x 4"+ deep to one charge. http://www.amazon.co.uk/18V-battery-Dewalt-3-0Ah-NiMh/dp/B005WY0W0W/ref=sr_1_62?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1343940422&sr=1-62
Thats with a DC988 ive had for 7 years., chalk and cheese compared to my old B&D 550W hammer drill, does the job in 1/3 the time. Use same batteries in other tools so more cost effective if your going to get some use out of them.

hareng

Last link will be no better worth speaking of than you already have, the charge might last 8% longer.
If interested i would have a look on B&D site as that B&Q cant input the correct data theyre selling.

Good price though.

MX5huggy

Get a value mains powered hammer drill. It will outperform almost any cordless drill use the money saved to get the other tools you want.

hareng

Cant remember the last time i used my 550w mains hammer drill must be 7 years. By the time unwrapped the cable yet alone plugged in and or found extension, the job would be done and packed away.
They have that benefit.

As above if going to get some use out of the tool, get something good like Dewalt, Makita, Bosch Pro, Metabo etc You can but bare bones other tools and use the charger and battery in those.
ie it cost me a bargain price £44 for a Dewalt 18V bare bones repo saw, i already had drill, charger and two batteries and its done serious work.
Wouldnt leave home without it:rotfl:

jc808

hareng wrote: »

Cant remember the last time i used my 550w mains hammer drill must be 7 years. By the time unwrapped the cable yet alone plugged in and or found extension, the job would be done and packed away.
They have that benefit.

As above if going to get some use out of the tool, get something good like Dewalt, Makita, Bosch Pro, Metabo etc You can but bare bones other tools and use the charger and battery in those.
ie it cost me a bargain price £44 for a Dewalt 18V bare bones repo saw, i already had drill, charger and two batteries and its done serious work.
Wouldnt leave home without it:rotfl:

Relatively speaking theyre stupidly expensive though, I have three drills:

Boschhammer 240V SDS+ Hammer drill - got second hand (but as new) £140... really you can get a great corded hammer drill for half that price

Makita cordless drill driver with 2 batteries - Bought secondhand for £40 (I think) batteries run out quick but good for piloting holes in wood, driving in screws into gentle stuff like door furniture, plasterboard etc

Wickes impact driver - bought new c£130 I think - the nuts for driving in screws to carcassing/ flooring joists etc. Good for cutting holes in wood with fluted/ auger bits etc.

You dont really need an impact driver, but IMO its worth seperating out corded and cordless drills - unless the person never does any diy at all

tony6403

Whilst I have a preference for Dewalt cordless the Hitachi drill below has got to be worth checking out. There are 99 reviews on the Screwfix website. (£100 , two Li-ion batts).
As mentioned above corded drills are generally more powerful but I rarely bother with the extension lead and finding somewhere to plug in.
With a second battery in reserve you will not find much which a leading brand drill can't reasonably do.

anotherbaldrick

I bought my little old Bosch battery drill about 12 years ago and it is still going strong . Original battery does all I need it to in drilling brick, glass ,steel and wood. Fantastic tool, worth a dozen Black&Deckers.

cyclonebri1

You want a mains powered drill, forget batteries for masonary, unless you are on site.

Go Dewalt, loads dead cheap on ebay.

I used to run an engineering/ electrical unit for a big company. I bought the kit we needed.

After I dropped a Dewalt drill from 25 feet up and simply snapped all the detached "trim" back on, it was as good as new.

The worst stuff I bought was Bosch, with the exception of their jigsaws.

leveller2911

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Go Dewalt, loads dead cheap on ebay.


The worst stuff I bought was Bosch, with the exception of their jigsaws.

My personal choice is for Hilti,Makita,Matabo and Bosch trade, I use to buy De-Walt but IMO they took their eye off the ball and concentrated developing workwear and braces.....:rotfl:

I had no end of trouble with De-Walt jigsaws and cordless drivers and once you loose confidence in a brand it takes a lot to get it back.

I'm still using a 13 yr old Makita LS1013 sliding chop saw almost daily and it still cuts accurately.

PS Hitachi are value for money

cyclonebri1

leveller2911 wrote: »

My personal choice is for Hilti,Makita,Matabo and Bosch trade, I use to buy De-Walt but IMO they took their eye off the ball and concentrated developing workwear and braces.....:rotfl:

I had no end of trouble with De-Walt jigsaws and cordless drivers and once you loose confidence in a brand it takes a lot to get it back.

I'm still using a 13 yr old Makita LS1013 sliding chop saw almost daily and it still cuts accurately.

PS Hitachi are value for money

Certainly agree there, I bought a recon hitachi demolition breaker drill a couple of years back, fantastic engineering and cracking value.:T