Workplace parking

Pop_Sox

I am a community worker, and the owners of the building my workplace is situated in have restricted parking with the "magic eye". Staff are allowed to park for two hours at a time, twice a day with at least an hour in between (not ideal as sometimes we are in and out four or five times).

About a month ago, I was about to leave work when somebody was having IT difficulty, something they were attempting to print out was what we consider the highest priority (safeguarding). This was 5pm, and the document was needed to be hand delivered somewhere for first thing the following morning. I assisted the person to print out their document, and left. This made me 12 minutes over the two hour parking limit.

Today the notification comes, via my car leasing company (which they are charging me £12 for redirecting), saying that I had parked over and pay up £75 in two weeks or it will go up to £120.

I have emailed my manager to try and get this removed due to the type of document I stayed to do, however in case they can't I have read all the parking information on here, and intend to ignore the notice.

However I am not sure where I stand as I lease a care through my employees. The £12 I cannot get out of as this will be taken straight from my salary.

Does anyone know if I ignore the notice will they then go to my employees who will force me to pay it, meaning I might as well pay up whilst it is at the lower rate.

Half_way

Is this a private parking charge??
Check your contracts imediatly, they probably metion fines and penatlys will incuur and admin fee etc etc.
if they only mention fines and penaltys then you have had an ilegal deduction from your wages, you should ask your manger to re-pay this fee imediatly back to you.

if you hanfg fire a bit someone will be able to offer ore advice.
you can also check here (pepipoo) where theyre have also been simalar cases to yours posted.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=60

ManxRed

There's two issues here:

1. The lease company charging your employer £12. You need to find out what it says in the contract between your employer and the lease company with regard to parking tickets. There's a fair chance that it only mentions that fines and penalties issued by authorities under relevant traffic legislation incur an admin fee (or something very very similar). If this is the case then the ticket you have does not fall under this description and the lease company have no right to charge your employer £12. Your fleet manager would need to take this up with the lease company.

2. Your employer deducting this charge from your salary. What does it say in your contract of employment about the conditions under which they can do this? Is it similar to the above, where it only mentions penalties and fines issued by ...etc...etc...? In which case you should point out to your employer that this ticket does not fall under such a clause and that they have no right to deduct the money.

You need to check these contracts though to ensure that the wording is as I have indicated above.

EDIT: For clarification, what you have been issued is a speculative invoice from a private company inviting you to settle a claim for an alleged debt relating to a breach of contract (a contract that neither the lease company nor your employer are even a party to and therefore are not legally liable for). You HAVEN'T been issued with a fine or penalty relating to a breach of traffic legislation by a relevant authority.

Pop_Sox

To clarify, my lease is with Lex via my employer, with my employer contributing to the lease. The lease contract does state that I will be liable for administration charges incurred for parking or traffic violations. Apparently this is for the inconvenience of them having to email our transport people to pass on the charge. The charge will not come out of my salary but will be added to that months lease payment which comes directly out of my salary.

What I want to avoid, if I ignore, is a whole raft of these "administration charges" if the parking people then go after Lex as the owner of the car.

ManxRed

We need the exact wording from the lease. 'parking or traffic violations' is too vague.

It should state what the exact conditions under which they can levy the admin charge are.

In the eventuality that the PPC went after Lex, Lex need to be informed that as they are not party to any contract then they are not liable. Refer them to the BVRLA (their trade body) who also advise ignoring these private tickets, and who Lex are currently ignoring the advice of.

Pop_Sox

The parking company is PCN

The_Slithy_Tove

You need to find (and post) the exact wording in the lease contract - it's important. If it really does say "parking or traffic violations", then this is neither. You need to sort this out in order not to pay this £12, let alone any more that come along. ManxRed has described it very well. You will need to be proactive and possibly quite forceful here.

Pop_Sox

Will find out the exact words tomorrow of the lease agreement at work. I only had a quick look today.

Coupon-mad

By the way, you can't ignore this at all as it's a lease co. and you need to tell them the score about this scam. And you will need to write a short letter to the PPC to hook them in your direction asap.

It's not a parking ticket at all, it's a civil contract matter involving the driver (not the car nor the owner/keeper, they and your employer have NO liability or risk whatsoever).

You say you read some threads on the forum but what about the recent threads about lease cars? Look at all these from June/July alone!!

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4096819

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4094315

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4083389

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4075777

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4063449

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4068163

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4033479

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3994019

And then there's the ongoing MacBudman thread this year:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3748269

And a search of 'Lex Lease PPC ignore' on Google found this thread on pepipoo with similar advice to the MSE threads recently (unfortunately the OP never updated the outcome and hasn't reurned to that pepipoo forum):

http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t66682.html

The BVRLA link is what you need and the Fleet News link. Time to educate your employer and Lex (softly softly though, it's your job after all!).

Lex are going against their own industry Trade Body advice and this matter is NOT a traffic violation, offence or fine. In fact to be frank, it's none of their business.