Double yellow line parking

BODHISATTVA_2

Hi. I was recently issued with a parking ticket by a private company for parking on double yellow lines.

Circs were: Went to retail park, couldn't get on private car park next to shop I wanted to visit because it was full, adjacent to car park is a private service road that goes to the rear of the retail outlets. There are double yellow lines along this service road, although in a poor condition with sections of the lines worn away. There are no signs on this road stating there is no parking so I parked there.

I was in the shop for FOUR minutes - I can prove it - and when I returned to my car this highly smug guy was just returning to his car having smacked a £75 ticket on mine. He was so quick I can only assume their CCTV saw me parking there and sent him round past-haste.

I looked at the nearest parking sign which was on the car park I couldn't park on - it talks about parking correctly in the bays. There is no mention of parking on the roads. At best it is ambiguous.

I have e mailed the company on their appeals system which they have declined - I gave none of my personal details to them.

Unless I pay in the next couple of days I will miss out on their 'invitation' to reduce the cost of the ticket by half. I really feel aggrieved by this. Has anyone out there had similar experience and what has been the result if you didn't pay. The owners of the site are a major retail park owner.

The_Slithy_Tove

BODHISATTVA wrote: »

Hi. I was recently issued with a parking ticket by a private company for parking on double yellow lines.

Circs were:

... completely irrelevant. On private land, double yellows carry as much weight as a child's picture of an elephant on the road, i.e. none at all.

BODHISATTVA wrote: »

I have e mailed the company on their appeals system which they have declined - I gave none of my personal details to them.

That's a shame, but not the end of the world. You are likely to receive more demands from them, getting more hysterical with each one. Luckily, they can all be ignored, which is the approach you should now adopt.

BODHISATTVA wrote: »

Unless I pay in the next couple of days I will miss out on their 'invitation' to reduce the cost of the ticket by half. I really feel aggrieved by this. Has anyone out there had similar experience and what has been the result if you didn't pay. The owners of the site are a major retail park owner.

It's very common - just look around this forum. The result in not paying and doing nothing is ... nothing. Eventually it all goes away.

SodG24

BODHISATTVA wrote: »

Hi. I was recently issued with a parking ticket by a private company for parking on double yellow lines.

Circs were: Went to retail park, couldn't get on private car park next to shop I wanted to visit because it was full, adjacent to car park is a private service road that goes to the rear of the retail outlets. There are double yellow lines along this service road, although in a poor condition with sections of the lines worn away. There are no signs on this road stating there is no parking so I parked there.

I was in the shop for FOUR minutes - I can prove it - and when I returned to my car this highly smug guy was just returning to his car having smacked a £75 ticket on mine. He was so quick I can only assume their CCTV saw me parking there and sent him round past-haste.

I looked at the nearest parking sign which was on the car park I couldn't park on - it talks about parking correctly in the bays. There is no mention of parking on the roads. At best it is ambiguous.

I have e mailed the company on their appeals system which they have declined - I gave none of my personal details to them.

Unless I pay in the next couple of days I will miss out on their 'invitation' to reduce the cost of the ticket by half. I really feel aggrieved by this. Has anyone out there had similar experience and what has been the result if you didn't pay. The owners of the site are a major retail park owner.

Just to be sure - who does the PCN say you should pay ?

BobQ

BODHISATTVA wrote: »

Hi. I was recently issued with a parking ticket by a private company for parking on double yellow lines.

Circs were: Went to retail park, couldn't get on private car park next to shop I wanted to visit because it was full, adjacent to car park is a private service road that goes to the rear of the retail outlets. There are double yellow lines along this service road, although in a poor condition with sections of the lines worn away. There are no signs on this road stating there is no parking so I parked there.

I was in the shop for FOUR minutes - I can prove it - and when I returned to my car this highly smug guy was just returning to his car having smacked a £75 ticket on mine. He was so quick I can only assume their CCTV saw me parking there and sent him round past-haste.

I looked at the nearest parking sign which was on the car park I couldn't park on - it talks about parking correctly in the bays. There is no mention of parking on the roads. At best it is ambiguous.

I have e mailed the company on their appeals system which they have declined - I gave none of my personal details to them.

Unless I pay in the next couple of days I will miss out on their 'invitation' to reduce the cost of the ticket by half. I really feel aggrieved by this. Has anyone out there had similar experience and what has been the result if you didn't pay. The owners of the site are a major retail park owner.

A private company cannot issue a penalty charge notice (even if they do issue something that looks realistic). The offense you have committed is therefore not statutory. Its a civil offence. They are effectively asking you to settle an invoice based on your contract with them (entered into by parking there)

Ignore them unless you receive a letter from a court.

When you say "I have e mailed the company on their appeals system which they have declined" do you mean they replied to the email or that the system returned a message saying it was undeliverable? If the former you have potentially given them evidence that you committed the civil offence (depending on what you said). If it was not received the chances are they will never know you emailed. Either way do not do it again!

In theory they could take you to court to settle their invoice. But they will probably not bother unless they can prove that you were the driver and did park there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/consumer_advice/parking_ticket_advice.shtml

peter_the_piper

BobQ wrote: »

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In theory they could take you to court to settle their invoice. But they will probably not bother unless they can prove that you were the driver and did park there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/consumer_advice/parking_ticket_advice.shtml

There are a lot more defences to any case than just who the driver was. As the chances of it going to court 49/2,500,000. The chances of losing are far greater than this. Less than 25/2,500,000

minion101

Peter_the_piper, sorry to disagree with your figures (and others who have posted similar), but shouldn't you only be dividing by the number of people that don't pay up straight away, or even at all, rather than by the total number of tickest issued?

49/500,00 is still a small number, but is more accurate I believe

peter_the_piper

You could say its only 895 court summons issued and 25 found in ppc favour but its more accurate to compare the court decisions for the ppc with the total tickets issued.

BobQ

peter_the_piper wrote: »

There are a lot more defences to any case than just who the driver was. As the chances of it going to court 49/2,500,000. The chances of losing are far greater than this. Less than 25/2,500,000

And today's award for pointless pedantry goes to ......

peter_the_piper

Thanks Bob, as you can do far better than I, I will leave helping the posters in your hands. Best of luck.

Tigerbush

BobQ wrote: »

you can only help him discover it in himself

I mean no disrespect Bob. It's great that people like you and me can come on here and post. But give me Peter any day to give advice to people in trouble with PPCs. Sorry