What are my chances of appeal succeeding?

gerkin

Hi guys

I forgot to renew parking ticket ( ticket only issued for 4 hours a a time ). As soon as I remembered I ran out to the car park and found the attendant issuing a ticket. Explained that I was here to buy a ticket and she said since she had already issued the ticket she cannot cancel it. But she said she will put a note on my penalty notice that I had come to renew the ticket and so if I appeal it might get cancelled.

I appealed but as expected the council have refused to cancel ( with money in scarce supply for councils I doubt they would cancel it so easily ).

What chances have I got of succeeding in this appeal ? I have no evidence that the attendant has put a note on my notice, its what she said.

peter_the_piper

It depends on what type of ticket it is exactly.
Its worth getting the Parking place order for that car park to see if they have specified time scales etc.
also post this onto pepipoo.com for extra help.

Lucyfus

Make sure you have your other previous ticket that you paid for as it will be time stamped. When you send in your letter of appeal send in a COPY of that ticket as it proves that you were only delayed and not actually trying to get free parking. You are usually allowed up to 15 mins grace to find change for the meter in between tickets .

peter_the_piper

Lucyfus wrote: »

Make sure you have your other previous ticket that you paid for as it will be time stamped. When you send in your letter of appeal send in a COPY of that ticket as it proves that you were only delayed and not actually trying to get free parking. You are usually allowed up to 15 mins grace to find change for the meter in between tickets .

""I appealed but as expected the council have refused to cancel ( with money in scarce supply for councils I doubt they would cancel it so easily ).""

Needs more ammo than this to succeed with formal appeal, assuming its not an excess charge/standing charge where he/she has used up their appeals and its pay up time or court.

gerkin

I dont have that ticket with me unfortunately, but the photos they have sent me has that ticket displayed. Normally I would not bother appealing since I overstayed and they are entitled to fine me but since the attendant told me that she has put a note on the notice that I had come to pay the parking fees I thought I might have a chance to appeal.

Coupon-mad

Lucyfus wrote: »

Make sure you have your other previous ticket that you paid for as it will be time stamped. When you send in your letter of appeal send in a COPY of that ticket as it proves that you were only delayed and not actually trying to get free parking. You are usually allowed up to 15 mins grace to find change for the meter in between tickets .

No, you are not allowed any 'grace period to get change'! There is no grace period with most Councils although some may allow 3 mins or so, as a matter of policy. You would never get more than two or three mins - if anything at all.

Anyway, gerkin, MOST Council PCNs can be appealed successfully but most people are rejected when they first appeal. So you are in the situation I would expect you to be in - you have to wave goodbye to the discount, bite the bullet and carry on with the appeal. If you are not wanting to appeal it on an all or nothing basis then pay at the discount now while you still can...but I wouldn't because most Councils make errors in the paperwork or Order or process somewhere, and many 'fold' and cancel just before adjudication to save 'man hours'.

As PTP said above ''its worth getting the Parking place Order for that car park to see if they have specified time scales etc. Also post this onto pepipoo.com for extra help.'' You get the Order from the Council so email them for that NOW; no need to mention the PCN at all as an Order is a public document you can just ask for a copy of. Then you can show it to pepipoo posters as they have an online repository for linking detailed Traffic Orders. You would be amazed how many are flawed documents...!

Start a thread here:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

Read a few threads to get the hang of that forum; notice that they always need to see pictures of the PCN (both sides) and the rejection and any other letters you get. The Notice to Owner will arrive next, which will mean you can move the appeal forward to a formal one as the Owner (if that's you).

Finally you get to go to adjudication - where MOST PEOPLE WIN! :T