HELP urgently neede with wages AGAIN

kerrypn

For reference previous thread last month

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4043313=

My wages went in at midnight, and for the whole month I have only been paid "£298!!!! For full time (36 hours) plus missing hours from last month a tax rebate of £221! This is despite them having my p45 for 10 weeks plus and me personally phoning HMRC to get a tax code sent out 4 weeks ago !!!!!

I cannot pay my bills on this! I am obviously going to phone in the morning but is there anything I can say to them to make them give me what I am owed tomorrow instead of waiting until next month please?

I am over £500 short
Advice very much appreciated I am desperate

ktothema

kerrypn wrote: »

For reference previous thread last month

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4043313=

My wages went in at midnight, and for the whole month I have only been paid "£298!!!! For full time (36 hours) plus missing hours from last month a tax rebate of £221! This is despite them having my p45 for 10 weeks plus and me personally phoning HMRC to get a tax code sent out 4 weeks ago !!!!!

I cannot pay my bills on this! I am obviously going to phone in the morning but is there anything I can say to them to make them give me what I am owed tomorrow instead of waiting until next month please?

I am over £500 short
Advice very much appreciated I am desperate

Did you actually talk to payroll direct? I know before you'd talked to someone who had "definitely" sent the p45 in, but this is beginning to look increasingly like payroll either do not have the p45 or have not processed it. the tax code from HMRC means nothing to the company without some declaration in the correct hands that this is your only job.

You need to talk to payroll direct. Someone before suggested downloading and sending them a p46 in case the p45 wasn't with the right people. Did you do that! If not, do it anyway. Send it with a note saying it looks like youre being taxed as a second job so it seems your p45 has either gotten lost or hasn't been processed, here's a p46 instead - please process urgently.

getmore4less

You need to go in and sit on people till you get to the bottom of this.
You need to get your manager, HR and payroll on the case properly.
Get in their faces so it is easier for them to fix the problem than put up with you

What's the payslip say.

After the mess up last month did you try to preempt issues this month by making sure they had the numbers right before he pay run.

you need to find out who is messing up if hours and tax are both still wrong and chase them every month till it is right


Probably the only thing you can do is remind them they may be liable for costs arising from the failure to pay on time, so all bank charges unpaid charges etc.

Will need a paper trail and chances you will have to go to ET/Court to recover if they don't pay up. last resort.

getmore4less

ktothema wrote: »

the tax code from HMRC means nothing to the company without some declaration in the correct hands that this is your only job..

Is this realy true,

The point of coding notices is HMRC take account of the number of jobs sharing out the allowance.

Each payer does not need to know there are any others

kerrypn

I did not fill in a p46 as HMRC insisted that I did not need to as they had issued a tax code to my employer. This was exactly 4 weeks ago

This isnt just a tax issue clearly. I am very very annoyed especially seeing as though when I just spoke to my manager I got a shirty disinterested response.

I do have the number for Payroll now who I will be phoning at 9am, this is a multi national company whose name you would definitely know, I am really fed up-I have rent, council tax, gas electric etc to pay and no way of paying!

36 hours x 4=144 hours @ 6.08 per hour= 875.52 plus tax rebate of £221= £1096 approx. I should have got gross. There is no way I have had £700 taken out for tax.
Oh and thats not counting the missing hours fromlast month!

How do they expect people to survive on that? SUrely whoever processed my wages would have noticed ow low they were :mad:

ktothema

getmore4less wrote: »

Is this realy true,

The point of coding notices is HMRC take account of the number of jobs sharing out the allowance.

Each payer does not need to know there are any others

It was covered by Chrisbur in the original post a few times, but in great detail on the last pages. There's more info the payroll dept need than just the tax code. Depending on their processes they may have used this to change from 0T tax code to use BR or 810, but this would be assumption as they don't know the other bits of info they require.

I've never been lucky enough to work anywhere that took a coding notice and changed my allowance without knowing the other info (ie working with a P45 or P46 or having worked there for years). Doesn't mean it doesn't happen of course.

OP - I hope payroll will help, especially as your manager obviously doesn't care. Did you get a payslip from last month in the end? My guess is they haven't taken £700 through tax, I'd guess you never got that refund and they've replicated what happened to you last month, whatever the hell it was they did.

chrisbur

Can you please give full details of the payment so that we can see where the problem is?
From what you have said it could still be a problem with your tax or could be a problem with them not paying correctly.

[Deleted User]

Strikes me you might only have been paid the 12 hours and no salary and your code changed, hence the large rebate. It's quite hard to second guess without any payslip info. I hope you made the call and got an explanation.

Kynthia

Large companies can usually do an interim payment during the month, so once it's sorted you shouldn't need to wait until the next salary run.

Blackpool_Saver

It's terrible ( I also read your other post) BUT unless you have a proper breakdown, how can you or we work it out? have you got a payslip this month?

kerrypn

I have some more information now.

I havent got a pay slip as yet because work is quite far away and because I work shifts I am not in until next week and my manager bery unhelpfully decided to be as obstructive as possible.

Spoke to HMRC and after I had got my tax code sorted, my employer then submitted my P45 so I reverted back to BR sode as they treated it as a second job.

I spoke to payroll who promised to call me back, then 10 minutes later I got a call and a b%&£cking from my manager who said I am not allowed to talk to payroll!

My hours are 100% wrong-there is no way emergency tax is accounting for all this. I am stuck until Monday now. HMRC faxed over a change in tax code to my manager and payroll had initially said that they would do a payment rerun on this basis but now I dont know as I am not allowed to talk to payroll :mad:

My new tax code will be 810L. I think I have been paid for 2 weeks instead of 4-but like you all rightly say without a payslip this is impossible!

I am not impressed I got a telling off for daring to question why I have been paid so little :mad:

I think I will just have to wait until next month by the looks of it, the manager is now on holiday!. Not.Impressed.