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40 MPH limit - advice or the law?
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luckwudaveit wrote: »http://www.abd.org.uk/speed_limit_signs.htm#repeaters
The above link includes a table which suggests for a Road more than 350m in length: (i) with a maximum speed limit of 40mph; that repeater signs shall be required at the distances given, as a maximum.
So it would appear that the Council have a speed limit which would be hard to enforce.
That table is out of date as the TSM has the distance of repeaters on a 40mph road as 500m on the same side of the carriageway.
In fact the page is out of date with regards its information on the use of roundels. The TSM states that roundels can be used as repeaters to compliment vertical signage, this effectively means that as long as the terminal signage is correct then roundels can be used as repeaters for the rest of the road.
It also states that roundels should not be used for advisory limits.
So from the OP description the limit is enforceable and the signage correct.0 -
I don't understand the people who make up speed limits.You'll have a perfectly safe country road dropped from a nsl to 40 mpsh.
Then around the corner from me is a single track road with no passing place that comes off a 30 mph residential road and is about 300 yards long and comes to a dead end.There are no pavements and it's very well used by pedestrians as it leads to a canal and walking routes.It's a nsl.
The mind boggles.0 -
Recently, a series of county roads have been given a 40 mph limit, from 60 mph. There's a good reason for this at times, since cattle, sheep and horses roam freely at these locations. I have personally attended a nice new Volvo XC90, extensively smashed in the front, shattered screen and bent roof, with a very shaken gentleman in the car, and a very dead horse in the road.
But all the authorities have done has been to announce a new limit, and paint 40 on the road every few hundred yards. There are no repeater posts.
Is this an advised limit, or a legal limit? At times you'd be stupid to do over 20 in the dark and fog; at other times you can see a mile and barring a horse trying for the national, are completely "safe" doing over 40.
Is the new limit signed by a round circle with a red border with 40 in the middle the correct size for a change of limit sign? If not then it is advisory.
This is a road I've driven on. It is NSL - the 40 sign has no legal weight.
http://goo.gl/maps/AG3u
And neither does this:
http://goo.gl/maps/WEYU0 -
Delivery_Driver wrote: »I don't understand the people who make up speed limits.You'll have a perfectly safe country road dropped from a nsl to 40 mpsh.
Then around the corner from me is a single track road with no passing place that comes off a 30 mph residential road and is about 300 yards long and comes to a dead end.There are no pavements and it's very well used by pedestrians as it leads to a canal and walking routes.It's a nsl.
The mind boggles.
The first one has had quite a few accidents. So the council has had to put in speed limits. (Some times one accident is enough.)
The second one due to the type of road it is i.e. one where people have to use their common sense, has had none so they have just left the signs. When someone is maimed they will lower the speed limit to 15 or 20 mph.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
(If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)0
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