Landlord being cheeky

lighting_up_the_chalice

suited-aces wrote: »

And we will probably be able to advise you that it's void if the deposit isn't protected.

Not if the tenant has DEMANDED her rights. as advised on here. Which was the point I was making.

doodlesmum

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I wasn't arguing with standing up for yourself. Just the methodology. From what you have said, even your own in-laws (who you hold up as an example of good communication) are abusing their position...



.... Shouldn't they be asking "if", rather than "when"? After all, one of the tenants rights is the right to exclude.

As i stated they always checked the time and date were ok with the tenants,they would happily change the time if it was not ok .As for you stating they are abusing their position,well considering their tenants have never once complained about anything in 6yrs,if a job needed doing in the house it will done asap so no actually they are good landlords.But like i stated we are all entitled to our own thoughts .Everybody knows as there are bad landlord as there are also bad tenants too that will never change .

lighting_up_the_chalice

doodlesmum wrote: »

As i stated they always checked the time and date were ok with the tenants,they would happily change the time if it was not ok .As for you stating they are abusing their position,well considering their tenants have never once complained about anything in 6yrs,if a job needed doing in the house it will done asap so no actually they are good landlords.But like i stated we are all entitled to our own thoughts .Everybody knows as there a bad tenants there are also bad landlords too that will never change .

So, rights only exist if we complain?

Your in laws should be asking IF they can attend, not WHEN. You seem to miss that point, but it is their tenants rights we are talking about, and I know how important that is to you.

doodlesmum

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

So, rights only exist if we complain?

Your in laws should be asking IF they can attend, not WHEN. You seem to miss that point, but it is their tenants rights we are talking about, and I know how important that is to you.

How do you know they did,nt ,were you present :think: you are presuming they did,nt ,bit presumptuous ,which coincidentally they always did my fil and mil are well aware of how the tenancy agreement works they have been landords for a very long time ,i stated they were happy to do it at a time that suited the tenants.And again "rights only exist if we complain" er no, as i have said both landords and tenants have rights ,i am saying landords should,nt use their rights to push tenants around,just as tenants should,nt mess landlords about it works both ways.But as i said it comes across as the landlord is trying to abuse his position.

BitterAndTwisted

All your bickering back-and-forth is very fascinating but might not be of any use to the OP at the moment.

People with serious questions really shouldn't risk being frightened off by your side-tracking.





OP: please can you answer the following questions:

Which country is the property in: England & Wales, Scotland or NI?

Precisely what kind of property is this? Self-contained for your own use only, shared flat or house?

If a shared property is it a joint-tenancy or do you have a separate tenancy agreement for your own room only?

Was there a dual-signed inventory at the start of your tenancy?

Do you have a receipt for the deposit you paid or is there mention of one having been paid in the tenancy agreement?

Have you checked with the three deposit-protection schemes yourself to see whether your deposit has been protected? DPS, TDS and MyDeposits are the three schemes and you should be able to scheck for yourself by entereing in the address of the property.

lighting_up_the_chalice

doodlesmum wrote: »

How do you know they did,nt ,were you present :think: you are presuming they did,nt ,bit presumptuous ,which coincidentally they always did my fil and mil are well aware of how the tenancy agreement works they have been landords for a very long time ,i stated they were happy to do it at a time that suited the tenants.And again "rights only exist if we complain" er no, as i have said both landords and tenants have rights ,i am saying landords should,nt use their rights to push tenants around,just as tenants should,nt mess landlords about it works both ways.But as i said it comes across as the landlord is trying to abuse his position.

I'm presuming nothing. Just relying on your first hand account of their shocking behaviour, trampling all over their tenants rights in such a cavalier manner.

As for the OPs rights? She has rights even if she currently takes no action on the lack of deposit protection. Those rights may suit her far better in the long run, so why give them away, upset the landlord AND leave herself open to a S21? That's all I'm suggesting.

lighting_up_the_chalice

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

All your bickering back-and-forth is very fascinating but might not be of any use to the OP at the moment.

People with serious questions really shouldn't risk being frightened off by your side-tracking.

OP: please can you answer the following questions:

Which country is the property in: England & Wales, Scotland or NI?

Precisely what kind of property is this? Self-contained for your own use only, shared flat or house?

If a shared property is it a joint-tenancy or do you have a separate tenancy agreement for your own room only?

Was there a dual-signed inventory at the start of your tenancy?

Do you have a receipt for the deposit you paid or is there mention of one having been paid in the tenancy agreement?

Have you checked with the three deposit-protection schemes yourself to see whether your deposit has been protected? DPS, TDS and MyDeposits are the three schemes and you should be able to scheck for yourself by entereing in the address of the property.

Whilst I support your wish to assist the OP and her specific issues, it is also true that others in a similar (if not identical) situation may wish to seek guidance and information from this thread.

Indeed, one of the first bits of advice offered to many posters here is to search the boards for similar previous threads.

Please feel free to offer assistance to the OP in a very individual and specific way. But please also respect that all this "bickering" is doing is widening the debate to assist as many others as possible.

I would't see your efforts as "blinkered" any more than I would regard mine as "side tracking"..

doodlesmum

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

All your bickering back-and-forth is very fascinating but might not be of any use to the OP at the moment.

People with serious questions really shouldn't risk being frightened off by your side-tracking.





OP: please can you answer the following questions:

Which country is the property in: England & Wales, Scotland or NI?

Precisely what kind of property is this? Self-contained for your own use only, shared flat or house?

If a shared property is it a joint-tenancy or do you have a separate tenancy agreement for your own room only?

Was there a dual-signed inventory at the start of your tenancy?

Do you have a receipt for the deposit you paid or is there mention of one having been paid in the tenancy agreement?

Have you checked with the three deposit-protection schemes yourself to see whether your deposit has been protected? DPS, TDS and MyDeposits are the three schemes and you should be able to scheck for yourself by entereing in the address of the property.[/Q

Agree, i am too good at sticking up more myself sometimes,sometimes it is very hard not to bite sometimes , i am going to pull myself out of the thread now as i agree totally it is getting sidetracked.

doodlesmum

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I'm presuming nothing. Just relying on your first hand account of their shocking behaviour, trampling all over their tenants rights in such a cavalier manner.

As for the OPs rights? She has rights even if she currently takes no action on the lack of deposit protection. Those rights may suit her far better in the long run, so why give them away, upset the landlord AND leave herself open to a S21? That's all I'm suggesting.

You are baiting for a bite which you are not going to get because seriously trying to provoke a response and then turning into a complete post on our differing thoughts like BitterAndTwisted stated is not helping op,i know they are excellent landlords they have happy tenants so on that note this is my final posting on this thread .I fortunately have the common sense to know that when a fellow poster points out a thread is getting sidetracked it is time to leave the thread to those who are interested to giving advice and not turn it into presumptive, incorrect posts

lighting_up_the_chalice

doodlesmum wrote: »

You are baiting for a bite which you are not going to get because seriously trying to provoke a response and then turning into a complete post on our differing thoughts like BitterAndTwisted stated is not helping op,i know they are excellent landlords they have happy tenants so on that note this is my final posting on this thread .I fortunately have the common sense to know that when a fellow poster points out a thread is getting sidetracked it is time to leave the thread to those who are interested to giving advice and not turn it into presumptive, incorrect posts

I would suggest that this issue is not a "sidetrack", but a clarification of the tenants rights regarding access. Your earlier posts would suggest that the LL can gain access as long as he suggests an agreeable date/time. I would suggest that the LL can only gain access with the tenants express agreement and that the tenant is under no obligation to grant such access without a court order.

So many quote the "24 hours notice" and it is often accepted as gospel, even on these boards. Some clarification of this particular right would appear to be pertinent to the OP, wouldn't you agree?