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lessonlearned

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Right, so why do we assume that it's different today, and the youth of today are all out there binge drinking every week?

There are so many assumptions and holier than thou comments from the older generation here it's hard to see through them all.

Anyway, the point about the iphones was made. I'll tackle this absurb holier than thou attitude some other day. On saying that, it's being displayed with such verocity, I'm not sure I really need to prove that many boomers wish to simply relieve themselves from any part in how todays society is struggling or functioning....it's being displayed with on this thread so succinctly. I'm sure it's possible to wedge ones self up their own rear a little more, but it's getting difficult

Not one of has said that all young people are binge drinkers etc. No-one has said that all young are spendthrifts.

As for being "holier than thou" - not at all. We're just pointing out the obvious - You can't have your cake and eat it too. Buying a house requires a certain amount of sacrifice is all - nothing holier than thou about that.

As for relieving my self of my part of society. How dare you. You know nothing. You are the one making assumptions here.

I gave up work to care for my disabled husband for 6 long years without any help, without thought of gain or financial reward. It has wrecked my health and destroyed our finances.

Throughout my adult life I've done plenty of voluntary work in the past and still continue to do so.

I shall share what few assets I have left with my children to give them deposits. We've already put them through university to the tune of £40,000.

Hopefully one day I will be able to help out with childcare if I am lucky enough to have grandchildren.

You know nothing. Hopefully youth is on your side and you still have time to learn.

A few manners would be a good start.

ukcarper

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Right, so why do we assume that it's different today, and the youth of today are all out there binge drinking every week?

There are so many assumptions and holier than thou comments from the older generation here it's hard to see through them all.

Anyway, the point about the iphones was made. I'll tackle this absurb holier than thou attitude some other day. On saying that, it's being displayed with such verocity, I'm not sure I really need to prove that many boomers wish to simply relieve themselves from any part in how todays society is struggling or functioning....it's being displayed with on this thread so succinctly. I'm sure it's possible to wedge ones self up their own rear a little more, but it's getting difficult

Do you think that if the young people of today were to stay with their parents only went on a Saturday night for a couple of pints they would be able to save a deposit. I would imagine if they did that they could have a reasonable smart phone contract and still save enough.



I am not saying that people should do that now and I realise that in many cases it would not be possible but if we hadn’t don’t it we wouldn’t have been able to buy then.




It would have been very nice if we could all have bought in themid 90s when property was at it's cheapest but unfortunately life isn't like that.

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

Do you think that if the young people of today were to stay with their parents only went on a Saturday night for a couple of pints they would be able to save a deposit. I would imagine if they did that they could have a reasonable smart phone contract and still save enough.



I am not saying that people should do that now and I realise that in many cases it would not be possible but if we hadn’t don’t it we wouldn’t have been able to buy then.




It would have been very nice if we could all have bought in themid 90s when property was at it's cheapest but unfortunately life isn't like that.

People can't afford to save a deposit for a house because in most parts of the South East, which is where most people live and where most of the jobs are, you need upwards of £40,000.

We are not talking about teenagers blowing their pay check in Magaluf because and then going home to mum..

We are talking about an entire generation of people in their late 20s and 30s trying to bring up families in expensive and unsatisfactory rental accommodation who can barely break even each month.

These people can't save a deposit and probably will never own a house.

They will pay into the system for their entire lives and retire in their seventies in a country which has a fraction of the public services baby boomers have enjoyed.

They will not have a house to sell off, they won't get a pension, they aren't going to get a free bus pass, or a winter fuel allowance or comprehensive medical care.

They will have worked every bit as hard if not harder than you people, but without any of the endless asset appreciation and debt funded public services that baby boomers have had to cheer themselves up with.

What about these facts is so difficult for you to understand?

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

People can't afford to save a deposit for a house because in most parts of the South East, which is where most people live and where most of the jobs are, you need upwards of £40,000.

We are not talking about teenagers blowing their pay check in Magaluf because and then going home to mum..

We are talking about an entire generation of people in their late 20s and 30s trying to bring up families in expensive and unsatisfactory rental accommodation who can barely break even each month.

These people can't save a deposit and probably will never own a house.

They will pay into the system for their entire lives and retire in their seventies in a country which has a fraction of the public services baby boomers have enjoyed.

They will not have a house to sell off, they won't get a pension, they aren't going to get a free bus pass, or a winter fuel allowance or comprehensive medical care.

They will have worked every bit as hard if not harder than you people, but without any of the endless asset appreciation and debt funded public services that baby boomers have had to cheer themselves up with.

What about these facts is so difficult for you to understand?

Funny that I live in the southeast my children are in thier 30s and they have all bought property as have most of thier friends.

You can't have it all and in the 70s if you decided to rent and have a family before buying you wouldnt have been able to save.

A._Badger

ruggedtoast wrote: »

What about these facts is so difficult for you to understand?

Um, how about we start with the fact that they aren't facts?

Come back to us when you have something other than scattergun agitprop, Toastie.

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

Funny that I live in the southeast my children are in thier 30s and they have all bought property as have most of thier friends.

You can't have it all and in the 70s if you decided to rent and have a family before buying you wouldnt have been able to save.

If you expect people to wait until they have bought a house before having a family you are going to find yourself winding up in a self service nursing home.

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

If you expect people to wait until they have bought a house before having a family you are going to find yourself winding up in a self service nursing home.

How did I do it in the 70s how did my kids and thier friends do it a couple of years ago.

ruggedtoast

A._Badger wrote: »

Um, how about we start with the fact that they aren't facts?

Come back to us when you have something other than scattergun agitprop, Toastie.

I'm sorry what? Your fingers keep banging away at the keyboard but somehow nothing coherent ever really comes out for you does it.

Maybe you can pull it all back by offering us your treatise on how the relative economic decline of the UK is going to be reversed over the next three decades.

Or maybe you won't, because you neither know what you're talking about or care enough to find out.

Based on your previous efforts I think we can expect the latter.

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

how did i do it in the 70s how did my kids and thier friends do it a couple of years ago.

i don't know why don't you tell us?

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

i don't know why don't you tell us?

I’ll give you the example you can get a room all in for about £100 a week in the south east if you are on £30k that would leave you £340 a week don’t go on the booze have a basic mobile and you would be able to save at least £240 a week over £12k a year after 18 month you have the deposit on a terraced house in commuting distance of London.

Now if you are talking about teens and people in thier early 20s then they do have it hard.