ATOS assessment - what are the chances of being in support group

dazza-mac

schrodie wrote: »

Unless the wording on the ESA50 has changed the wording on the form could be said to be misleading (heaven forfend the DWP for the that) because it says w.r.t. that descriptor:-

what does w.r.t. mean?

HB58

"what does w.r.t. mean?"

with regard to

Parva

dazza-mac wrote: »

schrodie wrote: »

Unless the wording on the ESA50 has changed the wording on the form could be said to be misleading (heaven forfend the DWP for the that) because it says w.r.t. that descriptor:-

what does w.r.t. mean?

With Regard To

Damn, beaten to it.

HB58

Parva wrote: »

dazza-mac wrote: »

Damn, beaten to it.

:rotfl:

schrodie

dazza-mac wrote: »

How on earth can they assess you using an imaginary wheelchair!? I can't believe they are allowed to assess someone (one of thousands) and yet your anwer has to fit into a 'tick box' apparantly, as from what I've read the assessor is usually sat in front of a computer. How can they tick a box if your answer doesn't fit in it? Are they going to tick the one that's nearest to your answer? If so, how can that be right? Especially when you consider that every time we fill in a form it states at the bottom that if we give a false answer it could result in the loss of benefit and/or prosecution!

The regs were changed in 2011 when th e[last] government redefined walking as 'mobilising'. The legislation Here says w.r.t. the mobilising descriptor the following:-

"1. Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid can reasonably be used."

However as has been stated before the ESA50 form that the claimant fills out doesn't say this it says "if you usually use one".

Is it misleading, I think it is!

grummps

dazza-mac wrote: »

How on earth can they assess you using an imaginary wheelchair!? I can't believe they are allowed to assess someone (one of thousands) and yet your anwer has to fit into a 'tick box' apparantly, as from what I've read the assessor is usually sat in front of a computer. How can they tick a box if your answer doesn't fit in it? Are they going to tick the one that's nearest to your answer? If so, how can that be right? Especially when you consider that every time we fill in a form it states at the bottom that if we give a false answer it could result in the loss of benefit and/or prosecution!

They normally tick the box that the assessor thinks is near enough to what you describe - erring not on the side of the claimant but on the side of the DWP. Everything is biased against you getting the required number of points.

As an example - Do you watch any of the soaps on TV? Yes, some of them.

Which means that you are able to sit down comfortably for at least 30 mins without the need to get up.

Do you have any pets? Yes, a dog.

Which means that you are more than able, twice a day, to take the dog for long walks.

mazza111

Have to agree with that statement grummps. They have my daughter down as having a cat. Not that I go down and feed him every day or change his litter tray for her. They try to catch you out all the time with their questions. They asked my DD what she would like to be able to do if she was able, being a 21 year old lass, she said she'd like to go down the pub with her mates. This translated to Miss xxxxxx has a cat that she's able to look after. She regularly visits friends to go to the pub. :mad: That actually made me laugh as she's not been in the pub for 2 years(at least!!!) No mention of her being unable to stand and cook meals etc. I feed her every day :mad: So if you get called for a medical. Be careful of what you say with regards to hobbies and pets. Her 10 minutes on the xbox also got labelled as spending all day on it