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Why I am Closing My Santander Account

I have changed my mobile tel number therefore cannot receive messages sent to my previous number.
I log into my Santander online a/c but cannot pay a bill / transfer money unless I input the pass code sent via text message.
I log into 'Security change settings' - change mobile number I enter my old no. and my new no.
They then send a code via text to the OLD number to authorise the change !!!
I do not have access to this so I have to call the 'Technical Team' who can change it 'provided you can quote the old number.' (this is an 0845 no you must call )
I call the number then 'for security' Im asked, my address, my post code, my name, the security no and expiry date from my debit card, my old mobile no - all answered no problem.
Then 'just one last Q' - 'Can you give me a direct debit going from your account?'
'Yes my Mortgage' Q 'How much is that' A 'Im not sure of the exact amount at the moment' Q'Well can you just give me an amount' - So I did and got the amount wrong. Im then told because I gave an incorrect amount they could not change the pass code and I would have to visit a branch and sort it out there...
Yes of course it is my fault ...BUT if I had been told 'If you give the wrong amount then we cant ask anymore Qs the system locks out' ...
I would have checked to see the exact amount....
As far as I'm concerned this is not about security - surely the most secure and user friendly method to do this is when you have logged into your online a/c using a 10 digit numeric ID then a passcode and registration number known ONLY TO YOU.
Exasperated ...:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

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  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    edited 20 July 2012 at 10:23AM
    crystal458 wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned this is not about security - surely the most secure and user friendly method to do this is when you have logged into your online a/c using a 10 digit numeric ID then a passcode and registration number known ONLY TO YOU.
    But the whole point of the passcode-to-mobile thing is to protect you against somebody breaking into your online account. Otherwise they could just change your mobile number to theirs, set themselves up as a new payee and pay themselves all your money.

    Of course, if they're concerned that somebody could have got into your online account, then it's bloody stupid asking about transactions, because the bad guy can see all those.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • callum9999
    callum9999 Posts: 4,443 Forumite
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    crystal458 wrote: »
    I have changed my mobile tel number therefore cannot receive messages sent to my previous number.
    I log into my Santander online a/c but cannot pay a bill / transfer money unless I input the pass code sent via text message.
    I log into 'Security change settings' - change mobile number I enter my old no. and my new no.
    They then send a code via text to the OLD number to authorise the change !!!
    I do not have access to this so I have to call the 'Technical Team' who can change it 'provided you can quote the old number.' (this is an 0845 no you must call )
    I call the number then 'for security' Im asked, my address, my post code, my name, the security no and expiry date from my debit card, my old mobile no - all answered no problem.
    Then 'just one last Q' - 'Can you give me a direct debit going from your account?'
    'Yes my Mortgage' Q 'How much is that' A 'Im not sure of the exact amount at the moment' Q'Well can you just give me an amount' - So I did and got the amount wrong. Im then told because I gave an incorrect amount they could not change the pass code and I would have to visit a branch and sort it out there...
    Yes of course it is my fault ...BUT if I had been told 'If you give the wrong amount then we cant ask anymore Qs the system locks out' ...
    I would have checked to see the exact amount....
    As far as I'm concerned this is not about security - surely the most secure and user friendly method to do this is when you have logged into your online a/c using a 10 digit numeric ID then a passcode and registration number known ONLY TO YOU.
    Exasperated ...:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    I log into Santander using my 8 digit customer number and a 5 digit pin, it's by far the most lax of all my accounts!

    I doubt you've been locked out completely as you passed the rest of the security. I'd just call them again but check the amount of the direct debit beforehand.
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 14,140 Forumite
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    Once you have failed the security test on the phone you are flagged as locked out and you will have to go to a branch and prove your ID. No second chances.
  • joedenise
    joedenise Posts: 18,491 Forumite
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    Closed our account a while back when they introduced this system. Didn't want to give them mine or my DH's mobile number 'cos I didn't want to get junk SMS messages and companies like Santander, I think, are likely to use it for other purposes.

    Denise
  • sweep9
    sweep9 Posts: 407 Forumite
    Been very happy with the mobile service. Only thing I'm not happy with (but I can understand why) is the fact you can't set up any payments from your mobile.

    For the messages side, I've set it to send text messages when anything over £50 happens on my account. To date, I have never received any spam messages at all!
  • missile
    missile Posts: 11,886 Forumite
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    I had a similar issue with Halifax ID verification.
    What date did you open the account?
    I don't know the exact date
    Why not?
    I have a guess
    You have failed security check, goodbye
    "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
    Ride hard or stay home :iloveyou:
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 14,140 Forumite
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    joedenise wrote: »
    Closed our account a while back when they introduced this system. Didn't want to give them mine or my DH's mobile number 'cos I didn't want to get junk SMS messages and companies like Santander, I think, are likely to use it for other purposes.

    Denise

    Had SMS system since it was introduced on three phones. Number of spam texts? Nil.
  • zerog
    zerog Posts: 2,478 Forumite
    I agree that the situation described in the OP is stupid, but you didn't have to call an 0845 number. You can call 0800 111 4229 to change your OTP number.

    And all banks' security systems are like this. The call centre staff get asked a question by the computer and they type your answer in, and if it's wrong then it locks you out. One thing you can try is to call them again with a different story (i.e. pretend that the previous failed security was someone else).
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