removing water tanks in loft, to fit a combi boiler

cyclonebri1

Eastender wrote: »

yes, the ceiling of one of the bedroom will be replaced by a plasterboard and plaster and keeping the wood joist in tact, not sure if it's called overboarding.

Now he identified that our through lounge and hall ceiling needing changeing, for that he is asking £1.65k including skip hire. do you think that's resonable?

will speak to the builder about tanks to clarify and if that's included in the price.:) Had not realized that many people have kept their tanks, to be honest have not yet even seen the loft.

Take care here, overboarding is the expected route, no mess, just new boards and a skim, if they are removing the old (assumed lath and plaster), then yes, skip needed and much mess and expense, probably justifying the quote price. But you need to know.

Overboarding an average bedroom is prep + £40 boards and £10 plaster + the labour, carting etc, I'll let you do the sums.

Eastender

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Take care here, overboarding is the expected route, no mess, just new boards and a skim, if they are removing the old (assumed lath and plaster), then yes, skip needed and much mess and expense, probably justifying the quote price. But you need to know.

Overboarding an average bedroom is prep + £40 boards and £10 plaster + the labour, carting etc, I'll let you do the sums.

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, it won't be overboarding, as he is going to replace the old lath and plaster with a plasterboard and then skim over it. Now not sure if its requires insulation, the builder does not speak much English.:(

cyclonebri1

Eastender wrote: »

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, it won't be overboarding, as he is going to replace the old lath and plaster with a plasterboard and then skim over it. Now not sure if its requires insulation, the builder does not speak much English.:(

OMG:eek::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Sorry just imagining your next post.;)

Insulation is required,and to be honest everyone, you and the foriegner should know that.

Good news is that *******coalition is giving it away free at the moment, got something right at least:A

Leif

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Good news is that *******coalition is giving it away free at the moment, got something right at least

Subject to the condition that you have no insulation, or less than a maximum amount, maybe 4" but that's a guess. It is more sensible than subsidising solar, which IMO is to meet EU targets, rather than justifiable reasons.

Eastender

Sorry, didn't know that, as I never had to replace a ceiling before. Did some search on google, some plasterboards come with build in insulation, so I'll ask my builder to fit them, unless you can add insulation in other ways, which I'm not aware of.

unclebulgaria

If the tanks are the old galvanised (silver coloured) metal ones I'd leave it up there, they are invariably full of thick layers of rust and sludge and will be a pig to cut up, if they are plastic then it shouldn't take too long to cut them up with a reciprocating saw and bag them up there to take out.
Like lots have already said, unless its going to stress you leaving them wont hurt and any water will eventually evaporate from the tanks. There isn't a lot of monetary value to a metal one so he'll probably want to leave them up there.

southcoastrgi

Eastender wrote: »

Sorry, didn't know that, as I never had to replace a ceiling before. Did some search on google, some plasterboards come with build in insulation, so I'll ask my builder to fit them, unless you can add insulation in other ways, which I'm not aware of.

i've never ever seen or done a plasterboard ceiling put up with built in insulation it would mean cutting the insulation out to fit over the joists, the insulation is laid in the loft afterwards, a builder that doesn't speak much english OMG are you mad IMO you are heading for a world of heartache, if he can't speak english how the hell is he gonna comply with or even know about any english building regs, best of luck with your work but my guess is you will be posting an awful lot more threads.

art_for_arts_sake

I must admit the alarm bells were ringing a bit when I read the previous posts about the ceilings. I've had ceilings skimmed over when they've been in reasonable condition and even clad with plasterboard before skimming, so either your builder is being ultra conscientious by taking the old ceiling away first or they're making work for themselves. You can get insulated plasterboard but, if you have access to the roof cavity, loose-laid insulation is more effective energy and costwise.

art_for_arts_sake

art_for_arts_sake wrote: »

Didn't you say in another post you were having a ceiling replaced? It might be worth waiting till the old ceiling's down. It probably won't come down in one piece so you might as well do both jobs at once.

Leif wrote: »

Is the ceiling being overboarded? Anyway, the joists may well be too close together. My guess is that the width of the loft door is a measure of the joist spacing.

Yes, that's why I said it probably won't come down in one piece. I've fetched a few ceilings down for builders before now and the mess is horrendous. Birds' nests, and all the horsehair and lime plaster don't make for a wonderful hair conditioner. While you're making all that mess cutting up a water tank with an angle grinder, if it's metal, or a hacksaw, if it's plastic, isn't going to make much more mess.

cyclonebri1

Leif wrote: »

Subject to the condition that you have no insulation, or less than a maximum amount, maybe 4" but that's a guess. It is more sensible than subsidising solar, which IMO is to meet EU targets, rather than justifiable reasons.

Yes, i't's something like that 100 or 150mm.

But I'm guessing that most of these contractors would have no issues in replacing insulation in a renovation situation like this, after all any existing insulation will hit the trash can.

Another point if say you have more than that amount but could benefit from more is that under some government prompted or subsidised scheme energy companies are subsidising the cost of insulation at some of the major sheds from time to time, Eon and British Gas to my knowledge have both participated.
Both B&Q and Wickes have has the triple insulation packs on sale at about £3 in recent times, enough for an average semi for about £21:money: