Carbon Monoxide leak - "Lives at risk"

bris

Werdnal wrote: »

As usual Bris seems to have totally missed the point here.

Installation of a new flue does not come under the remit of a Gas Engineer who came to repair the boiler. Boiler may be repairable, but any gas engineer worth his salt will not repair or re-commission it whilst there is a danger of CO fumes leaking back into the house.

LL is also in breach of GSC regs, so I think time to throw book at him NOW!

absolute nonsense, any gas safe engineer can reseal a flue in 10 minutes with the proper bracket, Thats what they are paid for. I have dealt with engineers hundreds of times and had every possible problem fixed, flues being amonst them many times. It's common for the brackets to corrode over time due to the gases and condensation build up in the flue, this cases it to break and slip.
This also causes the boiler to trip out so there is no danger because the boiler wont start in the first place.
the question still remains, why didn't the engineer do his job.

Werdnal

bris wrote: »

absolute nonsense, any gas safe engineer can reseal a flue in 10 minutes with the proper bracket, Thats what they are paid for. I have dealt with engineers hundreds of times and had every possible problem fixed, flues being amonst them many times. It's common for the brackets to corrode over time due to the gases and condensation build up in the flue, this cases it to break and slip.
This also causes the boiler to trip out so there is no danger because the boiler wont start in the first place.
the question still remains, why didn't the engineer do his job.

So you were there at the time the gas engineer called and inspected the problem yourself and know exactly how to cure it then. OP hasn't given enough information to determine what the problem is and you haven't seen it either!

If the Gas engineer employed by the LL has failed to do what he was asked, that is for the LL to sort out. Tenant has now been left without hot water/heating AGAIN, and is quite rightly P'eed off!

And before you shout about me for sticking up for tenants rights - No I am not a tenant, I am a LL!

Hoof_Hearted

BennyB1 wrote: »

Would it be worth attempting to sue?

Only if it gave you whiplash....

greenface

The boiler has been disconnected so no longer is a threat to you or yours. Your point now is not having a working boiler . Write a strong letter to your LL asking and giving time limits to get the boiler working safely again. Inform then within x amount of days you will contact B Gas and get them to repair it properly at your LLs expense. Make sure you get a safe certificate and renewed every year . Get a Carbon detector and smoke and no need to sue . Nothing lost .Only if you become out of pocket due to laudry ,extra heating fires etc . then you have a claim ..

thegirlintheattic

There is no longer an immediate danger as the gas is disconnected. So your problem is not having a working boiler/hot water - you need to follow the advice given on here and your other thread about getting the LL to deal with this formally.

tbs624

Hmm well a good start would be a decent audible CO alarm, don't get the sticker type as they are affected by aerosols and perfumes

Very good advice indeed.

The main problem with the card/sticker type is that usually by the time they have started to change colour to the point where it is obvious there is an CO problem, the property's occupant has already slipped into unconsciousness.......most people at least have a chance with an audible one.

tbs624

greenface wrote: »

The boiler has been disconnected so no longer is a threat to you or yours. Your point now is not having a working boiler . Write a strong letter to your LL asking and giving time limits to get the boiler working safely again.

See the OP's other thread - the boiler is not the only issue and from the sound of it writing to the LL is not likely to achieve much.

greenface wrote: »

Inform then within x amount of days you will contact B Gas and get them to repair it properly at your LLs expense.

BG are highly unlikely to undertake such work "at the LLs expense" simply on the say so of the T

As several of us have suggested the best way forward is via the Council's TRO/EHO - they can "encourage" a LL to meet his full statutory legal obligations. A LL who ignores Ts tends to need the intervention of a suitable third party to make them attend to the repairs & maint issues

C_Mababejive

Was he a real Engineer..?

Also methane when burned under ideal conditions produces CO2 + H2O and no appreciable amounts of Carbon Monoxide.

greenface

tbs624 wrote: »

See the OP's other thread - the boiler is not the only issue and from the sound of it writing to the LL is not likely to achieve much.

BG are highly unlikely to undertake such work "at the LLs expense" simply on the say so of the T

As several of us have suggested the best way forward is via the Council's TRO/EHO - they can "encourage" a LL to meet his full statutory legal obligations. A LL who ignores Ts tends to need the intervention of a suitable third party to make them attend to the repairs & maint issues

dont fancy chasing after the OP last post TBH just a comment on this one. If the LL doesnt respond give the LA the same letter and add a cc to The LL with a time limit to respond. Stop paying the rent thereafter .To get Bgas to do the work pay them and deduct from monthly rent . I would not expect Bgas to work without payment . sorry

G_M

greenface wrote: »

dont fancy chasing after the OP last post TBH just a comment on this one. If the LL doesnt respond give the LA the same letter and add a cc to The LL with a time limit to respond. Stop paying the rent thereafter .To get Bgas to do the work pay them and deduct from monthly rent . I would not expect Bgas to work without payment . sorry

If planning to get repairs done and deduct the cost from the rent, you need to follow a precise process. Or you could end up being liable for the full repair cost AND any damage caused during those repairs.

See Shelter process here.