Jsa

jen007

dseventy wrote: »

You should get details of the length of the suspension, and how much in the letter. It will show you how to appeal (and suspensions can last many weeks).

Forgot to quote you in this....

It says 'We cannot pay you Jobseekers Allowance from 12 July 2012'
The letter itself is actually quite confusing, it has a lot of 'We cannot...........' with reference to NI contributions (class 1) and also says 'We cannot pay you Jobseekers Allowance from 26th July 2012'


Doesn't actually say how long the sanction will last.
I have the rescheduled appointment with my advisor on Monday, so i'll ask her about it then but it'd be good to have a rough idea of what it actually means.

jen007

robpw2 wrote: »

im sondused why did you not get screened ... if you think you have a medical condition get checked for it

To be honest I didn't think it would be nesecary. The advisor at the college said i'd need to pay for the psychologist myself then I would be reimbursed, not something I could have afforded at the time. In hindsight, now yes a formal diagnosis would have been useful.

missapril75

jen007 wrote: »

What do you mean continous throughout?

From the very first day you applied, through the period you accept responsibility for and through the period you advised them of the job interview. You've accepted it was your mistake but that doesn't mean you should suffer (disproportionately) for it. Especially as since you originally posted, you have now mentioned a medical explanation for the first period. Forget sanctions, forget breaks in claims, your target should be to make this the very same claim you made originally, with no break in entitlement. With what you've said in your posts so far you should have a good chance of success - at the very least, of one of the two periods for which you missed signing. You have the problems you mentioned; maybe it was your first claim?; you have a young child; and despite all this you have actually managed to get a job interview. You are not the sort of person sanctions are intended for.

dookar

A sanction doesn't represent a break in a claim, just a period for which benefit is not payable.

And sanctions are not intended for a 'sort of person' they're intended to protect the national insurance fund in certain circumstances, one of which is not attending as notified

missapril75

dookar wrote: »

A sanction doesn't represent a break in a claim, just a period for which benefit is not payable.

Yes...but these do not appear to be sanctions. The first one is a missed signing day. The second sounds like a missed appointment for a reclaim and usually means a non effective claim. The JC is claiming no record of contact about the appointment so unless they can be persuaded otherwise they won't consider they've had an effective claim.

And sanctions are not intended for a 'sort of person' they're intended to protect the national insurance fund in certain circumstances, one of which is not attending as notified

I think you're making no allowance for the human element behind decision making for backdating and sanctioning.

You don't get sanctioned for not attending as notified. You have the opportunity to give reasons for not attending or not applying and you may get sanctioned after that. Your reasons may be accepted and how you conduct yourself will make a difference.

dookar

It really won't, there's no 'conduct' clause in the law

missapril75

dookar wrote: »

It really won't, there's no 'conduct' clause in the law

You don't think that someone who politely explains why they didn't sign when they should, stands a better chance than the "sort of person" who is obstructive, generally misbehaves in the job centre, late for signings, says was there when he wasn't etc and gives the same unlikely tale for the fifth time?

Of course it won't go down as the official reason.

dookar

No I don't

missapril75

dookar wrote: »

No I don't

Fair enough.

My experience is vastly different then.

dookar

Your experience as a decision maker?