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  • Muttleythefrog
    Muttleythefrog Posts: 20,657 Forumite
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    edited 13 July 2012 at 5:30PM
    cheers

    What i mean is this,if your on ESA and getting just your NI stamp or even on ESA(WRAG), when can you re-apply to go on ESA( to try and get on support group) because your condition has worsened to a degree that you(or your doctor) deem it so?

    Well if you have a worsening condition and are maintaining a claim you are duty bound to inform the DWP of changes in health. The DWP would then determine if supercession is necessary... a redetermination of entitlement (and if that was Support group then payments would resume.. same could occur at routine reassessment). If you're maintaining a claim and circumstances change regarding means testing (e.g. partner loses job) then you could get more than £0.
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  • ESA income based WRAG is mean tested not time limited - its only the ESA conts based that's limited to 12 months - so if i wasn't earning/ or on a really low wage he'd get paid - or so we were told at Jobcentre.
    He only doesn't get paid because i earn too much for the means testing

    I would think that if you lost your job,my guess would be that they would'nt just start paying his benefit,he would be sent for an assessment.I got confused before(my meds):oabout Income based and cont based.
  • Muttleythefrog
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    edited 13 July 2012 at 5:38PM
    I would think that if you lost your job,my guess would be that they would'nt just start paying his benefit,he would be sent for an assessment.I got confused before(my meds):oabout Income based and cont based.

    He wouldn't be sent for an assessment because of the partner loss of job (although there would be a means testing calculation).. he'd be getting regular reassessments as an ESA claimant. Remember if you're continuing such a claim (income related ESA where you fail means testing rules) you are in effect getting paid the benefit... it just happens to be £0...i.e. you're awarded your full entitlement and then subtracted that same amount because of your savings, other income and/or partner earnings.
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  • smileytiger
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    yeah he still has an assessment every 6 months & we have to re fill in the ESA 50 form (my pet hate as OH can't always write so i have to do it..lol) - so he is classed as unfit to work and will be until he retires i think we just keep jumping through the hoops as you do :D
  • Muttleythefrog
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    yeah he still has an assessment every 6 months & we have to re fill in the ESA 50 form (my pet hate as OH can't always write so i have to do it..lol) - so he is classed as unfit to work and will be until he retires i think we just keep jumping through the hoops as you do :D

    pdf version if you've got access to printer..lol... might save a load of efforts ;) Did you say he jumps through hoops... I hope you haven't mentioned that to an ATOS HCP otherwise you'll be well and truly screwed..lol
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  • natlie
    natlie Posts: 1,707 Forumite
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    Hi
    I dont think incapacity benefit exists anymore - its being phased out.

    My partner has just lost his ESA after a year - he's not entitled to anything now as I earn too much. he lost it after failing a medical 7 months in but we won a tribuneral and got backpaid - watch out for the medicals!

    He isnt well enough to go on jobseekers so we have to manage on my income - he has depression and this isnt helping and he now has no financial independence and feelshe isnt contributing which is making him worse.

    its a terrible system
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  • smileytiger
    smileytiger Posts: 351 Forumite
    pdf version if you've got access to printer..lol... might save a load of efforts ;) Did you say he jumps through hoops... I hope you haven't mentioned that to an ATOS HCP otherwise you'll be well and truly screwed..lol


    Haha - you have to have humour - after all we're dealing with DWP here :D
  • smileytiger
    smileytiger Posts: 351 Forumite
    natlie wrote: »
    Hi
    I dont think incapacity benefit exists anymore - its being phased out.

    My partner has just lost his ESA after a year - he's not entitled to anything now as I earn too much. he lost it after failing a medical 7 months in but we won a tribuneral and got backpaid - watch out for the medicals!

    He isnt well enough to go on jobseekers so we have to manage on my income - he has depression and this isnt helping and he now has no financial independence and feelshe isnt contributing which is making him worse.

    its a terrible system

    We've been lucky i suppose OH has always 'passed' his medicals & he has a condition that will never improve so unless they change the goalposts he shouldn't ever not be eligble for ESA - just won't always get paid for it
  • Muttleythefrog
    Muttleythefrog Posts: 20,657 Forumite
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    Haha - you have to have humour - after all we're dealing with DWP here :D

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