Preparedness for when

siegemode

GreyQueen wrote: »

You should worry. I've been coveting survival buckets. Online. They collapse and fold.

You cannot begin to know how exciting I find things which can pack really small to be. I feel a trip to the camping store in my personal future, gawdhelpme.

Oh I think I can Having travelled a fair bit my self both as a child and adult, the value of compact and versatile things are a huge source of pleasure and reassurance. I also spent a lot of time on motorbikes and if it didn't fit in the 35ltr rucksack on my back then I couldn't take it. Camping holidays were great fun, but I was always prepared, I became a master packer. Shame I seem to have lost that skill You should see what I can pack into a large estate just for a few days at fil.

VJsmum

Cheapskate wrote: »

Apropos of completely nothing, I just g009led Alex Scarrow and David Brin - striking resemblance between the two, albeit a few years adrift - bit spooky!

*going away quietly now as I obviously have nothing better to do!*

A xo

oooh so they do (look alike) - clearly I have nothing better to do, either.

RosiePuddingPaws

BessieBooBoo wrote: »

Don't want to cause a flap for you, but in a nutshell it does describe the fact that melting artic ice causes the earth's crust to 'bounce back' once freed of weight. This then causes a domino effect on the surrounding crust, imagine throwing a rock in a pool and watching the ripples outwards. In other words, earthquakes, worse case scenario, agitating a volcano to erupt.

Morning

Don't panic on this one! You have to remember that geologists work on a different timescale than normal folk. Geologists think in terms of millions of years.

Yes, the melting of the ice does cause the earth's crust to bounce back. Bounce might be suggesting something a little more energetic though than what is happening. This has been happening in the UK since the last Ice Age. But it is only mm per year (don't remember the exact amount at the mo).

So, of all the things to be worried about, this is not a matter for immediate concern!

RPP

Popperwell

And we all know that the land mass was joined millions of years ago and recently(I forget where I read it)they said it will again due to the tectonic(sp?)plates etc...moving but none of us will be around...

GreyQueen

Pops, in the stone age, what is now the North Sea was actually land; low-lying and interspersed with pools and marshes but dry-ish. People were living out there.

Fishermen on the east coast haul up stone tools from what is now miles out to sea. And a lot of archaeology is buried off the present-day coasts of Spain and Portugal because what is now the sea bed was dry land thousands of years ago.

The sea is reckoned to have broken through to separate us from the continent (we used to be a penisula off the landmass) in a tsunami event. Real EOTWAWKI for the people of that era.

Geologists work in timescales far longer than we need to prep for, although my jesting prediction for the Millennium was Don't Buy Real Estate in the Netherlands.:rotfl:

Nothing on this hardscrabble planet is static, not coastlines, not water levels, not the volcanoes but for the sake of our sanity we have to pretend that it is, sometimes........

catznine

I downloaded the sample of Terawatt by Des Michaels onto my kindle last night for some scary bedtime reading! About an EMP event planes falling out of the sky etc:eek: anyway the central figure was ill prepared and had to go get some food, fast realising that it had to be easy to cook and would keep without electricity, using a home barbecue. His car was useless so the bike was put into service. He settled for some dried beans which needed soaking so hardly instant food! What scared me the most was the speed of the breakdown of law and order, within the first hours! Now do I get the rest of the book and scare/prep myself more or go pick up one of my calming little house books instead!

Catz x

GreyQueen

catznine I think that the trouble with modern society is that 80-90% of us are urban and most of us are clueless compared with the average domestic skill level of about 100 years ago.

If you "can't cook" when you have the use of a proper gas or electric stove, how the heck will you manage to get hot food when there is no power? A fire for cooking is a very different beastie from a bonfire or a house fire.

Plenty of people can't even do the most elementary sewing or recognise any species of tree or plant and think this is clever enough to brag about. I've never understood why you should boast of being ignorant, it's not as if it's difficult to achieve.

Re law and order, I think that what happened 18 months ago was a salutary lesson in what some people will do if they think that enough other people are doing it that they will be able to merge with the mob. As reported by the newspapers, a lot of those convicted of stealing from shops in the riots were already convicted thieves, and have gone on to re-offend since their punishment.

I find it very easy to imagine that if the Police were so overstretched that they were charging hither and yon to deal with the worst of it, that there would be a fair amount of trouble.

For instance, some might choose the disorder to go robbing, raping, or score-settling with enemies. They could well decide to victimise minority groups and turn on their homes, businesses, places or worship. It would get very scary very quickly if people thought that they were unlikely to be caught and held to account.

I can recall watching news reports of part of the conflict in former-Yugoslavia when the muslim popluation of one region were being driven out of their towns en masse. Their neighbours jeered at the trains and buses spiriting them away and then proceeded to loot their homes and sometimes move into them.

It's taken some people, who had returned, a lot of time, effort and money to prove that they own their illegally-stolen homes and get them back again.

I commented on this to my Dad at the time and he asked me if I thought it would be any different here?

RAS

bluebag wrote: »

Oh gawd GQ you have no idea what a relief it is to hear someone else talk about foldiing/small things. My family thinks I'm off my trolley.

Glad I am not alone in my minature folding world.

Another lover of compact kit here; one of my favourite was my (sadly deceased) folding washing up bowl. Tiny but functional; I used it to wash me, my hair, clothes and any greasy pans (basic washing up was a cold water job). I am a bit nesh so a tiny bit of hot water made all the difference to my ablutions.

I also love things that nest or stack well. Oh well.............

One folding things - this is a not tiny but it is interesting

Barcelona laundry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juWaO5TJS00

Popperwell

I might have problems making a fire and might have to eat items that do not require heating/warming up...happily though not great I can manage basic sewing.

I repaired my gloves the other night, I will be stitching my socks again(making them last a bit longer)they are thick thermals, I think that I may have to consider looking into having a darning needle and appropriate wool? And perhaps learning how to darn, with me its not the heels, more holes where the toes are.

But I can repair/alter trousers(at a push)put buttons on if they come off. And make cuffs if sleeves are too long. So that pleases me. Most of what I do I just seem to do instictively.

BitterAndTwisted

GreyQueen wrote: »

Re law and order, I think that what happened 18 months ago was a salutary lesson in what some people will do if they think that enough other people are doing it that they will be able to merge with the mob.

I find it very easy to imagine that if the Police were so overstretched that they were charging hither and yon to deal with the worst of it, that there would be a fair amount of trouble.

It would get very scary very quickly if people thought that they were unlikely to be caught and held to account.

This is precisely what happened in the Tottenham riot. It all kicked off initially on the High Road outside the police station. A couple of hours later some of them moved on to the retail park about 2 mins from where I live. Opportunism of the most ruthless kind. Lidl was untouched but Comet, Currys and the Asda home-store were goners. As was the sports-clothing retailer.

Luckily none of them were emboldened enough to start on the homes round here, but given no politzei available it was probably only a matter of time. And now they're trying to close police stations and cut numbers in the force!

Now, where can I get me a gun?