Preparedness for when

thriftwizard

How do you think this will effect the economy?? I think sales will plummet..and the economy drop??

I think TPTB are gambling that these are the people who don't have money to spend anyway, so it's not going to make much difference overall. And they'll be depicted as ne-er-do-wells and the improvident poor, so that those of us who are a bit luckier don't feel we need to care about them...

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People will manage CTC, they won't like having to manage on less and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth BUT people Will learn to manage and perhaps when things get difficult for those people again in their futures they will manage all the better for knowing how to now? It's quite surprising just how little you can have and still make a good life for yourself, a different life perhaps and you learn very different values, but a good life nonetheless!

moneyistooshorttomention

Just seen this one to share:

http://wilburdawbarn.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/you-should-concrete-over-makes-life.html

:rotfl:

COOLTRIKERCHICK

So is it true that, even with all the cuts, and future cuts that the government owe more money now than when they first came to power??

Why aren't these cuts eating into the debt??

I am just wondering how far the government will cut back, as I just seen on the news they are proposing to cut free school meals for kiddies

nuatha

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

So is it true that, even with all the cuts, and future cuts that the government owe more money now than when they first came to power??

Why aren't these cuts eating into the debt??

I am just wondering how far the government will cut back, as I just seen on the news they are proposing to cut free school meals for kiddies

Its true.

Because these cuts and more are funding tax cuts for the very wealthy not to mention pet projects that will make some of their friends even wealthier (possibly in the hope of getting well paid jobs when they leave parliament)

This government won't stop cutting back - they don't believe in public services, they believe in private for profit companies. Even when these cost more to deliver a reduced service.
Yet people still vote for them and therefore we all suffer.

Frugalsod

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

So is it true that, even with all the cuts, and future cuts that the government owe more money now than when they first came to power??

Why aren't these cuts eating into the debt??

I am just wondering how far the government will cut back, as I just seen on the news they are proposing to cut free school meals for kiddies

The reason is simple. These cuts are others spending so it is a zero sum game. So when they cut certain benefits the impact is greater than the cuts because other things cascade out of control. Imagine they cut family credit by £1000 what do you think will happen if they have no disposable income? Some will feed their kids but starve themselves. Then they will eventually need hospitalisation for malnutrition etc that costs a lot more than the initial welfare cuts. Longer term the welfare cuts harms educational attainment and the individuals long term income prospects. So they end up in a low productivity job with no prospects.

So the joined up thinking is nothing of the sort. It is all ideologically driven so they can cut taxes on businesses and incomes and then fund these services through fees. The plan is to completely unwind the welfare state and then blame anyone needing it for being !!!!less.

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COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Back of beyondville and cobbling together a life .

this is the problem with the internet, when no-one can see facial expressions and intonations. This sounds perfectly ok to some ears, it is how I would expect someone from my origins to speak, trying to sum a situation up in a few words and with a bit of humour. Cobbling together makes me think of a patchwork making a whole, a bit here and a bit there. . Back of beyondville isn`t something I would choose though, I live in an isolated village in a gorgeous part of the uk and it was my choice for which I am ever grateful. I can see that someone who didn`t really have much financial choice not being quite as happy with enforced circumstances

I know the area well. having lived quite near for over 35 years. Best to fully embrace the community, warts and all. These people are pure gold but it is a different way of life and I suppose hard to adapt to if going in with misconceptions.

moneyistooshorttomention

Indeed Kittie - I guess another short (but humorous) variant on patchwork is "Life as a spiders web, rather than a circle" - for swopping from a life with nearly everything within 20 minutes walk to one where a favourite shop is 30 minutes bus ride away/my own bank, optician and dentist over an 1 hour bus ride away, some social activities about 2 miles walk away and some 15 minutes walk away, some a 30 minute car lift away and so on. So - it is for many of us - a bit of something here/a bit of something there/etc. "back of beyondsville" is a humorous take on the fact that I also had a humorous name for my city (based on the amount of traffic and pollution there).

It is how quite a large number of people live here - a forthcoming Girls Night Out will include one woman from 10 miles away, another from 40 miles away and me from 1 mile away. So you adapt and I've only just met Ms 40 miles away, but she seems nice and thinking along lines of wondering if she'd like to kip on the spare bed that night, rather than driving that sort of distance home the same evening in order to help out (as she's obviously decided some of her social life is here).

thriftwizard

Kittie, I am so sorry if my post earlier upset you. Not wanting to defend any particular fuel, just to point out that it's not the case that one's bad & the other "good" - what needs to change is the way that we have organised our lives around individuals driving everywhere. If I could get to my Mum (26 miles away) inside a couple of hours hours by public transport, I'd give up my car tomorrow. And the ridiculous thing is, 60 years ago it would have taken me an hour and a half. Now it's nearer 4...

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not upset thriftwizard, frustrated I think at what has happened in our society in such a very short span of years. I am remembering when beeching cut all those railway lines and at a stroke, decimated public transport. We have 5 buses a day through my village and they only go 6 miles to one small town and another 8 miles to another very small town. There isn`t one decent supermarket between them, so car driving is essential. The bus starts at almost 9 and finishes at 5.30. Two miles away there used to be a station. Cycling is impossible because of the terrain and the main road traffic

The traffic is going to get very much worse in a short time, every migrant will want at least one car. Trouble is that I remember the old days when many people lived near to their place of work. So yes, it is frustration, esp now that they are talking of spending billions on HS2, just so that people who work in london can spread out and live in the midlands