Preparedness for when

lucy_lemon

I know when I used to have to laminate stuff at work, that when you trim it, the plastic can sort of split. But we were using a pretty cheap, basic laminator, so maybe a more expensive one works slightly better?

jk0

I believe you can buy different sizes pouches. They won't stay waterproof if trimmed.

Frugalsod

I would opt for Aquapacs. Designed to be water proof.

http://store.aquapac.net/explore-product-range.html

And the waterproof map case might suit you really quite well.

http://store.aquapac.net/explore-product-range/waterproof-maps-binoculars-cases/kaituna-map-case-808.html

And only £18

Frugalsod

This might be useful to some.

http://www.littlethings.com/how-to-survive-in-the-woods/

nuatha

Alloneword wrote: »

I want to take some photocopies of important documants and store them in some kind of waterproof wallett, however best i can find is "Nirex military wallet" but this is not sealed so will not withstand submersion in water so i thought my next best option is to laminate the paperwork, however never worked with laminators before i'm unsure if once i have laminatored and trimmed it will still stay waterproof or not, does anyone have any experience of this otherwise my only option i can find is something like ebay item number 121725245860 and i don't fancy that.
I'm sure i have seen some kind of tube that keeps things dry but i'm open to suggestions, if i can i'd like to keep spends to below £20

All1

Don't laminate important documents, if they are required for official ID purposes then laminated docs aren't acceptable, some laminated pouches act as if they have adhesive on the inside, so extracting the documents isn't always possible.
I have vacuum packed and sealed certified copies of my major documents, these will survive immersion at 2m for 7 days (the deepest and longest I've actually tested at, but once opened for examination would require fresh packing.

I'm wary of anything that has a velco ziplock style sealing method, in my experience these aren't submersible for any length of time. Any product you look at should have an IP rating, look for IPx8 with a depth and time (x stands for the rating against solid object ingress, eg dust or sand) IP ratings lower than 8 may well be described as waterproof (IP55 is often the rating on waterproof electric sockets eg for garden use) but IPx1 is a light vertical shower through to IPx6 which is basically a hose pipe and IP7 is little more than placed in a puddle (under 3 feet for 30 minutes maximum).

A sailing friend uses document tubes which are sealed by rubber glands, which are covered by screw on plastic end caps and further sealed with a silicon bead - he's not lost a document to moisture in a couple of decades of long distance sailing and tested his system with 6 months at 60 feet depth.

HTH

nuatha

Frugalsod wrote: »

I would opt for Aquapacs. Designed to be water proof.

http://store.aquapac.net/explore-product-range.html

And the waterproof map case might suit you really quite well.

http://store.aquapac.net/explore-product-range/waterproof-maps-binoculars-cases/kaituna-map-case-808.html

And only £18

It depends on how you define waterproof, aquapac do give IP ratings for their products and explain them here but that map case is described as stormproof, basically it survives having a hose turned on it for an unknown duration.

maryb

JK0

We had a 12 year old car which we loved but which was about to start costing money so we replaced it about 4 years ago with the car that was supposed to see us out until we are too old to drive much. We spend all our holidays in France and diesel is much cheaper there so that was an incentive to buy a diesel given that the MPG was also much better. (Having said that, the economics would not have worked out if all our mileage was in the UK). However I would not have done so if I hadn't believed that diesels were no longer dirty. I do feel quite aggrieved that a decision I made in good faith and which I cannot now reverse (this car will still have to see us out) has left me feeling a bit ashamed of what I am driving

Alloneword

Frugalsod wrote: »

I would opt for Aquapacs. Designed to be water proof.
And the waterproof map case might suit you really quite well.

http://store.aquapac.net/explore-product-range/waterproof-maps-binoculars-cases/kaituna-map-case-808.html

And only £18

Thanks for your suggestion Frugalsod this indeed is what i have done while i was there i picked up a couple of other bits as well so many thanks for yours and others suggestions.

All1

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maryb wrote: »

JK0

However I would not have done so if I hadn't believed that diesels were no longer dirty. I do feel quite aggrieved that a decision I made in good faith and which I cannot now reverse (this car will still have to see us out) has left me feeling a bit ashamed of what I am driving

we sold our diesel octavia last november, it was a beautiful car but the reason we bought it was that it had a VW 2 litre diesel tdi engine, reliable, solid, `clean diesel` yet all the time we had it, unknown to us it was puffing out dangerous gases which potentially were responsible for over 23 thousand deaths in the uk. I feel utterly devastated by this. We never in a million years would have bought diesel if we had known, like very many others we thought we were doing the right thing. I now drive petrol but my mileage now is nothing compared to the years we had VW diesel engined cars

moneyistooshorttomention

Frugalsods' signature has proven rather apt then - re those diesel cars, ie:

"Its really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right"

As a pedestrian that has been forced to breathe in fumes from both types of cars regularly in my last location - I found the diesel ones much worse from that pov and never believed what I was told about them anyway because of that.

My own cynical motto, to add to FrugalSod's has, for some time, been "If it tastes nasty/smells nasty/gives a nasty feeling - then it almost certainly IS nasty". Sounds simplistic - but I find it a good rule of thumb.