Preparedness for when

Butterfly_Brain

Cake just read what you are going through :(:( I echo the others in sending virtual hugs and a sympathetic ear if you want one xxxx

Butterfly_Brain

GQ the briquette maker in Aldi is £9.99 so not too many pennies x

the_cake

Feeling much stronger ... what a lovely lot you are! xxxx

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Cracking good post BB full of good common sense and positivity, thank you so much.

MARGARET it's a funny thing but as I sat at the bus depot this morning waiting for my bus I was aware of thinking that people these days don't have the same pride in themselves that we had when we were growing up, I was very aware of unkempt people in scruffy and dishevelled clothes, not clean or thier person either, looking hopeless, soft and flabby and with no sense of purpose or pride of appearance. I'm not deliberately being judgemental as I know people are cash strapped and in difficult circumstances these days but most of them were drinking bottles of coca cola and eating pies from a bakery chain that rhymes with 'eggs' and smoking. A bar of soap from Mr.T is less than 15p and you can get washing powder in the 99p shops, and a needle and thread is really not expensive if you buy a whole sewing kit again in the 99p shop. What struck me most was that the entire population has become slack and scruffy and it's become the norm. I wonder what the population would feel if they were faced with something like WW2 that our parents/grandparents had to deal with? a nation demoralised and hopeless would I feel not rise to the challenge like it did in the past. Sad to see such changes and I have no idea how to put the pride back into being british either.

Butterfly_Brain

I totally agree Mrs L it is as if we have lost our pride in everything these days.
Patriotism has become a thing of the past as more and more of us become disillusioned with the governments of all colours over the last thirty or forty years, who have proven themselves to be in the job just to enrich themselves and their corporate owners not the people of this country

siegemode

Cake Sorry to hear you are to face another legal battle, but I'm sure your past fight has prepared you well for what lies ahead. As frustrated and stressed as you must feel you sound like a really strong person. I'm sure those that are behind your current predicament have severely underestimated who they are crossing. Sending hugs and wishing you success.

Having read the recent link about the impending power cuts I read the similar news articles from Oct 2012 and 2013 all warning of the same problems and shortages.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10360751/Blackout-risk-this-winter-highest-in-a-decade-warns-National-Grid.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/9589213/Britain-faces-risk-of-blackouts-warns-Ofgem.html

I started wondering how much Russian gas shortages might have and how much reliance we had upon them. I seems that indirectly we rely on Russian gas for about 15% of our needs and a contract between centrica and Gazprom for additional supplies direct from Russia is due to begin shipping in October.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/21/uk-ukraine-crisis-energy-britain-idUKBREA2K16N20140321

I see trouble ahead :eek:

Came across this info which is still relevant and useful to us in the UK.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/disasters/poweroutage/needtoknow.asp

And then as I bumbled around the interweb this made intresting reading too and all the more reason to stay grey.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/36/section/22

Karmacat

The Cake I've been away for months with a virus, and not really got back into the habit of posting even as often as I did, which wasn't much but had to come on *now* to wish you all the best, I'm sorry you and your OH are going through this - I'm glad that you thought of this thread to post, though. I'm still going through past pages, but I'm starting to keep up with the current ones now. All the best.

Frugalsod

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

We are very fortunate that we have very good neighbours and we are all of thesame mindset. One has followed us and had a stove put in, another has started to build up their store cupboard and has put money away for a rainy day, mainly because their job looks unsafe and this grubbyment want everyone to wait 5 weeks for the benefits that they have paid into and are entitled to :mad::mad:

TBQH I think that we should all become as self sufficient and pay off as many debts as we can to offset the predicted economic crash.

I agree. If there is a financial crisis, which I expect before long, then you can never tell what desperate banks will do to get their money. Also with deflation a serious risk then the burden that debts will impose on those who have not cleared them will be serious and will drag many into serious poverty.

Also the plan to delay payment of benefits for weeks will really hit hard those on short term contracts or in and out of work. As if life were not hard enough for them, this government wants to make life impossible.

GreyQueen

One thing I have noticed when looking at old photographs taken in the streets, even in the slums (and we had some choice ones in this city) is the tidiness which was common even in very poor people in very difficult living situations. By tidiness, I mean that their clothes were tidy, even if obviously not new and mended if necessary, their hair was trimmed and combed, people stood better. And were positively slender by modern standards. And all this accomplished on very little money and with few of the luxuries we take for granted like washing machines (even if your machine is at the laundrette). Things started to go to the dogs in the late sixties/ early seventies, from what I can both see in photos and recall.

I constantly see able-bodied people, whom I know have homes with hot and cold running water, who dress like tramps and stink like rancid compost heaps. Or who can't choose a pair of trousers the right length and have 4 inches of ripped and trodden on hems dangling in the dirt. And the posture, even among young adults in the prime of their youth and strength, who slouch along like unstrung marionettes. Barely able to keep their eyes open and so lazy in their speech that they can barely be understood. Hell, if I was hiring, I wouldn't trust them to push a broom competantly, assuming they'd make it out of bed in the morning.

Drives me nuts. Whatever would people of their great-grandparents' generation have thought of them? I recall an army wife (officer's wife) having to tell the wives of younger officers that eating when walking around the streets isn't acceptable behaviour. And you constantly encounter signage explaining what should be perfectly obvious; don't bring your bicycle into the supermarket, no food or beverages allowed in the shop etc etc. Nobody old enough to go out without their Mum ought to require signs like that, spelling out very elementary forms of acceptable behaviour. I even had one woman who was old enough to know better (her fifties) justify her littering when I challenged her on the grounds that it provided work for streetsweepers.

I suppose the logical conclusion would be for me to have broken her nose, on the grounds that it would provide work for doctors, policemen and the courts...............:rotfl:

jk0

siegemode wrote: »

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/36/section/22

Bl**dy hell. That is pretty all-encompassing, isn't it?

Any property can be confiscated without compensation for virtually any reason.

Best bury your gold in the garden I think.