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  • jk0 wrote: »
    Yeah, but you'd have to wire them to an inverter to provide the 240 volts ac.

    I appreciate that.

    I was just wondering if they would keep the fridge freezer running, so as not to lose the frozen contents.
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    Bedsit_Bob wrote: »
    I've mentioned previously, about a nearby house, which has half a dozen large (maybe 4' x 3') solar panels on its roof.

    This has got me wonder, could these solar panels keep a fridge freezer running, in a long term power cut?

    you can do it but would need several 12v (safe) batteries set up in parallel and also an inverter to convert to 240v. All very expensive and you would have to set up an off grid system. Tbh, not worth the set-up cost even for a freezer full of food. The best batteries are gel leisure batteries and you would need several solar panels in order to keep them charged. Just google them to get an idea of cost and don`t forget that the batteries would be running down all through darkness. You can do a calculation based on how many amp hours you would need in a battery bank and work out the number of batteries needed to run 12 hours through darkness
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    I agree re coal Maryb. You could try felting wool - that's amazingly warm too.
  • maryb
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    I think that must be what Loden fabric is, essentially. Love those coats
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
  • maryb
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    Nuatha, can I ask a question? (don't feel quite up to venturing onto the IT boards and besides this is very relevant for prepping)

    If I back up all my files on a regular basis and then if I am targeted by the Gameover Zeus bug, reinstall Windows and restore the files from back up, would that sort the problem out?

    Or can it infect the backed up files?
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
  • jk0
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    Skip forward to interview at 12.30:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNMx0hC8G8
  • nuatha
    nuatha Posts: 1,932 Forumite
    maryb wrote: »
    Nuatha, can I ask a question? (don't feel quite up to venturing onto the IT boards and besides this is very relevant for prepping)

    If I back up all my files on a regular basis and then if I am targeted by the Gameover Zeus bug, reinstall Windows and restore the files from back up, would that sort the problem out?

    Or can it infect the backed up files?

    You're always welcome to ask questions.
    First things first, the estimate is that 15,000 UK computers are affected - I know its getting a huge amount of publicity but its not a lot of affected systems.
    Gameover Zeus relies on an email attachment or driveby download to infect your computer. It doesn't infect your data files or BIOS therefore a format, reinstall and reinstate documents would work.

    There are links to removal tools on http://www.getsafeonline.org/nca/

    What I do is setup a computer with all the software I plan to use on that system and then create a disc image of the system. Instead of reinstalling windows and then all the other software, I restore the disc image its a lot faster - and therefore I take fewer shortcuts. I then backup the documents partition regularly.

    Hopefully this helps, if anything isn't clear, please feel free to ask.
  • nuatha
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    Bedsit_Bob wrote: »
    I've mentioned previously, about a nearby house, which has half a dozen large (maybe 4' x 3') solar panels on its roof.

    This has got me wonder, could these solar panels keep a fridge freezer running, in a long term power cut?
    Bedsit_Bob wrote: »
    I appreciate that.

    I was just wondering if they would keep the fridge freezer running, so as not to lose the frozen contents.

    You get approx 700kWh per sq metre per year. with summer providing 5 times as much as winter. Assume 3kWh per winter week.
    However if you are on a feed-in tarrif you get no output from the cells without a mains connection. If you're not not involved in feed tarrifs (where the electricity company pays you for the power you generate) then you are looking at battery arrays for storage as well as inverters (as Kitty mentions)

    It would be possible to power a limited circuit which only had vital electrics attached (fridge freezer, medical equipment) however that would require advanced planning and dedicated wiring.
  • pineapple
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    edited 5 June 2014 at 10:24AM
    Yesterday I knocked over a lamp and the CFL bulb broke. I dimly remembered you had to be careful with disposal but then (a bit late in the day and after the family dog had run round the area) I read the official advice.
    While the mercury content is tiny and the risk minimal the following is advised
    Turn off any central heating (wonder if you have to 'turn off' the real fire too? :huh:)
    Open doors and windows and vacate for 10-15 minutes
    On return don nuclear bio suit and gloves
    Clean up solid floors with damp cloth.
    Clean carpeted area with sticky tape.
    Do not use a dustpan and brush or a vacuum.
    Bag all items and take to the designated council refuse area.

    I only lied about the bio suit - the rest is true!
    We have had no choice but to allow these things into our homes. :mad: Progress?
  • craigywv
    craigywv Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    thanks for the info lynn yesterday regarding growing veg xxx
    C.R.A.P.R.O.L.L.Z #7 member N.I splinter-group co-ordinater :p I dont suffer from insanity....I enjoy every minute of it!!.:)
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