Preparedness for when

charlies-aunt

cornishchick - so sorry to hear of your loss, sending love & {hugs} x x

Frugalsod

nuatha wrote: »

1) How It Works (I'd prefer the two volume edition, but currently only have the 70s single volume)

2) The Complete Book of Self Sufficiency - John Seymour aka the yellow bible.

3) I'd like a copy of a friends herbal, which is a cross between a Culpepper and Maybe's Food for Free, however I presume I'm restricted to published works so a modern edition of Culpepper's Complete Herbal.

I would think that any such books would need to be free of electronics as in a serious SHTF situation there would be no more gadgets coming out and all we could rely on would be mechanical devices.

GreyQueen

((((((cornishchick)))))))) just re-joining the thread after 24 hrs AWOL. Read your first post and thought of your husband's illness then went further and learned the rest of your sad news. Take good care of yourself, my lovelie, you know your online gang are sending you all good wishes.

I'm a tired but happy bunny as have the day off and am making a journey to a certain place from which most archers have been banned by their nearest and dearest.

Y'know, it starts with a I'm just popping in for a (single low-value item) and ends with an exit several hundred pounds lighter. Only I'm going in with intent to spend quite a bit. I mean, I could just let my hard-earned sit in a bank account, for the banksters to loan out at interest, and for the grubbyment to devalue with QE and inflation until it'll buy me one can of beans in my dotage.

Or, I could run off to the store and buy a longbow and a quiver of arrows, a bow-stringer, arm-guard and fingertab and....and.....and.

Hmmm, thinking, thinking, whatever shall I do.......?

Re time travelling books. Tough one; if it was only three, I'd say Complete Self-Sufficiency and Permaculture 1 and Permaculture 2.

To do a proper job of it, I'd want to bring about 50 books.

Is this One Second After which people are reading the one by William Forstchen? Sounds as if I should get my hands on that.

I've often thought of the resilience of my great-grands compared with my life. An EMP wouldn't have rattled their country life at all and certainly wouldn't have stopped great-grandad and the rest of that side of the family threshing wheat with the traction engines. Wouldn't have stopped his 'commute' to wherever the engine was working that week, as he was using a horse and trap for that. They had no leccy and no running water and no mains sewer. Raised 11 healthy kids and lived to an old age.

Compare and contrast to my IT dependant local authority job. If a temp emergency stops us accessing our main building, the IT and telephony structure allows an instant rollover to a subsiduary office where we can all scarper and plunk ourselves down to begin working again. We get drilled on that at random - turn up at work and find can't get in and have to get to other office. It's aimed at the main building being inaccessible due to something like a gas leak, not all our IT systems being fried and there being no electricity.

A pump broke in Provincial City last year. Several postcodes lost water immediately, both inside and outside the city limit, and several others had a pressure drop to almost no flow. I spoke to the water company after the public kept ringing the council and that's what they told me - a single pump failure. Which was repaired in under two hours, btw, but what if it couldn't have been?

And people think I'm a bit screwy for storing water........?!

D&DD

Morning all
Great to see you posting again CC there's probably no greater SHTF than what you've had to go through this past year or so I think your dear OH would be extremely proud of you XX


Bob that's a great question..can I cheat and have my kindle lol..


My three would be
1) Back to basics (good all rounder)
2)Where there is no doctor (lots of useful info)
3)Ludlows emergency survival manual (very good info for UK based preppers)


will add in links in a bit just getting DS2 off to work




I'm just waiting to see if anyone suggests the Kama Sutra lol well you'd have to repopulate wouldn't you???????

GreyQueen

Oooh, just thought of something; FROST.

Supposed to be sharp frost overnight tonight-Sat and again Sat-Sun. At least in my part of southern Englandshire. Daddy-o phoned me last night.

My cunning plan is to go up later to put protection on my only frost-tender plants atm; the spuds. The biggest of them are the size of lettuces and they should be able to be covered by the quantity of dead and dried grass which I have had drying out on the lottie after hoiking it out of the feral strawberries.

Yes, tatties will come back from frost, but if they get badly burned, they will have to make the new growth from the stored energy in the tuber, which is all they have until they can get those leaves out and photosynthesising. If they have to do twice or thrice which they should have done once, you'll get a weaker plant.

So look to your tender plants, fellow preppers, tonight and tomorrow night, we don't want an trouble if we can avoid it.

D&DD

Thanks GQ I fleeced last night and put the little heater on in the greenhouse but think I'll bring the tender stuff indoors for the next 2 nights just in case..tonight is looking to be our worst one possibly minus 2,zero tomorrow then safe after that *for now*!


Linkies for books


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1602392331/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0GM11ZA522XDJNH1V265&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455344027&pf_rd_i=468294


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Streetcraft-How-Prepare-Emergency-Survival-ebook/dp/B00AQ29GI4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399019618&sr=8-1&keywords=ludlow+survival+group


http://thevictoryreport.org/free-ebook-when-there-is-no-doctor/

Butterfly_Brain

cornishchic so sorry to hear of your loss xxxxxx

Butterfly_Brain

I didn't have to fleece last night because it has done nothing but tiddle down here, but I will definitely fleece up my fruit trees and bushes tonight or rather ds and dh will be doing it.
I will be so glad when the stitches come out at the end of next week, the family are really struggling to keep on top of things, maybe they will appreciate what i do a bit more after this.

has anyone seen this, it is in the home farmer, it is really interesting.
I can really recommend the magazine it has so much interesting stuff in it.

http://homefarmer.co.uk/straw-bale-gardening/

nuatha

Frugalsod wrote: »

I would think that any such books would need to be free of electronics as in a serious SHTF situation there would be no more gadgets coming out and all we could rely on would be mechanical devices.

I have a netbook ereader and solar chargers stored in an EMP safe, among the reference works stored are a Britannica, the electronic version of How It Works and a British Pharmacopoeia.
There may not be any new gadgets coming out (at least not for quite a while, however there will be tech to be salvaged and repurposed and tech that survives.
Few of us are equipped for a return to the rural idyll GQ describes. Its 40 years since I've harnessed plough horses, I doubt I'd remember how, even if I could find both heavy horses and tack. Within 3 hours walking of where I live I could scavenge all the materials to build a wind generator and have a regulated 12V supply, which would take me a further day to build using handtools already on the premises.

GreyQueen

I don't envy my great-grandparents' lifestyle one little bit. They'd both passed long before I was born but one of their DDs her hubs and an unmarried son who died about 15 years ago were still in residence and we visited regularly when I was growing up; I helped clear the house after great-uncle died.

Nope, it was a cold and damp house. In the GGs time it had no potable water at all, only a pond in the back from which non-drinking water was drawn. Potable water was brought in my grandad, in the horse and cart, from wherever he'd been working that day which had a well or a pump. It was stored in earthenware jars and strained through several layers of muslin to remove debris before being boiled.

GGD was still working at 69 and died in an accident when the horse in the company-supplied horse and trap shied, went into a ditch, and he was head-kicked. He was a phenomenally fit man, used to work with his two youngest sons who were in their twenties and they couldn't keep up with him at a walk even at that age.

My Dad's worked with farmhorses as a boy, as he was on a very old-fashioned farm where the squire didn't want to sell the working horses off. They were ploughing with tractors but using the horses for carting and delivering feed to stock in outlying fields. Mum's Dad was one of the last to plough with horses, circa the early 1950s.

It was so uncommon even then that a newspaper sent a young whippersnapper of a scribbler to interview him, as well as a photographer. Mum can recall his reaction to the journo burbling on about the joys of the countryside, the trees etc:

Oi've been lookin' at ruddy trees all my loife, quoth Grandad.

You'll have to imagine the flat cap, weatherbeaten face and the scornful expression on it. For some reason, that remark didn't make it into the article............:rotfl:We have serveral copies of the photo tho.

:j :j:jI am now the delighted possessor of a 66 inch flat-bow style of longbow with a pull of 36 lb and a dozen arrows. Plus accessories. Shopping for archery equipment is so much more fun than shopping for clothes. Can't wait to get back on the indoor archery range (have shot the bow on the mini-range in the shop). Twang!