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beautiful_ravens wrote: »

My point is, when you can't use the sinks or toilet for whatever reason, things go down the pan [or not!] very quickly. What is the preppers solution to this?!

For faeces, lots of medium sized plastic bags (on the lines of sandwich bags, sealed with insulating tape, then the neck folded over, and re-taped.

They can be stored in one of your dustbins or recycling bins.

For urine, you principally have two choices.

Store it, in seal-able containers (Jerry cans, large bottles, etc. - keep a large funnel on hand for the ladies), or find a suitable outdoor location in which to urinate.

A combination of the two is, of course, possible, if you cannot bring yourself to urinate outdoors.

Bricken

closing under floor vent bricks against light flooding obtain 30cm sq pieces of upvc 10 mm thick. Lengths can be obtained at building suppliers or from skips after new facias have been done. you will also need basic silicone sealant cling film and string. Place a piece of paper over the vent and trace outline also punch holes in paper through two grid holes at each end of the vent.
Place this template over the upvc and make holes just big enough for the ties.
Mark the outline of the vent on the upvc. thread one end of your string through the upvc pass it through the corresponding vent hole and back out the other then back through the upvc board repeat at other end of vent leave the board loose, squirt a thick bead of silicone onto the board outside the vent border line. cover this bead of silicone with strips of cling film (to protect the brick work when pressed in place) Now push into place and tie the strings if this does not seem to be a tight seal push wedges under the string loops til tight seal holes where string goes through. after cut string to remove. If you live in an area prone to flooding these can be prepared in advance and numbered for storage.

mrs_lds

Not been on here for a while but this may be of interest

ultimatepreparednesslibrary.com/?hop=thesheeple

Cottage_Economy

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

As a child, I, along with my parents, siblings, and several of my neighbours, lived with paraffin heaters for decades, with no noticeable negative consequences.

I'm sure you did in an era when everybody else did so you would have been danger aware. You also probably all lived in houses with slight drafts in them bringing in fresh air.

Using paraffin lamps as standard is not something the majority of the population do or are used to nowadays. We live in highly insulated hermetically sealed homes where we are not encouraged to crack open windows for fresh air in case we let the heat out. Our air bricks, designed to let in fresh air, end up being sealed when we are encouraged to insulate our cavity walls to keep warm and save energy.

Many people don't see the possible consequences of using a fuel-based lamp, from fumes that could aggravate an existing respiratory condition, to having long sleeves and accidentally knocking it on the floor, to overfilling it. It's something they need to be aware of BEFORE the time comes to use it and have a plan on how to deal with it. That after all is the point if prepping. Being prepared for what you would do if your sleeve did catch on the lamp and knock it on the floor or your teenage kid caught their leg on the table leg and the jolt knocked it over etc etc.

BUT it's also weighing up the negatives with the positives - that hurricane lamp may be an ideal source of lighting for many days at a cost of pennies and be right for a particular Prepper's circumstances. The positives may outweigh the negatives when all is said and done.

Personally of all my family also grew up with and used paraffin lamps and stoves, two of my aunts hated them as they claimed they stank and gave off fumes that aggravated their chests. Everybody else seemed fine. I have asthma and my hurricane lamp seems to have no noticeable consequences on me in that respect.

You and I may be ok with it (and family and neighbours), but there are many people on this thread who may not be - having never used fuel-based lamps -and not know it yet. What works for us may not work the same for others when put into practice today.

That's the point of prepping based on your own circumstances and priorities. By all means share information, but it would be a mistake to do something because someone else does and they were ok.

BessieBooBoo

Hello all


Not been here for ages, sorry, (waves sheepishly) but, saw this and thought you might be interested:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10548104/IMF-paper-warns-of-savings-tax-and-mass-write-offs-as-Wests-debt-hits-200-year-high.html




Hope it's not likely but you never know...


BBB

Karmacat

Bricken wrote: »

Invariably flood water will find a way into your house backed up sewers is just one but a disgusting one. if you have warning and time to act take a plastic rubble sack put inside a cloth bag (old pillow case) filled with a small amont of sand 1 kilo ish drain wter from loo then push the sand in the two bags into the u bend until firm then add more sand 5 kilos should do it pack down tight then pour in 1litre of water then close the bags and seal round with gaffer tape.this will allow you to put plastic bags on top to use loo as normal then seal for disposal at appropriate time.

Just a thought on the speedy blocking of toilets in case of sewage backup - I've seen expanding foam mentioned for this. I'd been prattling about what squatters used to do, because blocks of flats scheduled for demolition often had concrete poured in the toilets, as they were prime targets for squatters. Putting concrete in your *own* toilet is a one way trip :eek: but expanding foam is recoverable from :rotfl: I'm not sure how well it would hold up against whatever pressure the sewage pipes would be under, but its a thought ....

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Afternoon preppers all, thought I'd add in my two pennyworth and say please don't stop posting ALICE MARY, it's perfectly OK to have an opinion of your own, it's what makes this thread so strong as we all view life from slightly different perspectives. The differences are what make us stronger and let us ALL learn new things, if we all agreed and there was only one 'way' we'd stagnate and then heaven help us if we ever get a problem. You're part of 'us' so please stay and keep interacting and posting, we need you, Lyn xxx.

beautiful_ravens

Cottage_Economy wrote: »

A bucket lined with a strong sac, a base of pine pellets that are added to after every use might allow you a good few days as long as long as you have somewhere appropriate to store the used bags once sealed up. If you can't use your water supply you'd have to prep for hygiene supplies to ensure your hands are cleaned well after each bucket use.

By the way, this was in the mail this morning

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535304/UK-weather-Remote-Somerset-property-island-flood-water.html

That's what I call a prepper!

Ah, cat litter of course. I did consider sawdust pet bedding in a bucket, but it was the bucket that was the problem, now I know - bag!!!

That link to the fortress is GREAT and me and hubbs were talking about doing the exact same thing only yesterday

beautiful_ravens

Bricken wrote: »

Invariably flood water will find a way into your house backed up sewers is just one but a disgusting one. if you have warning and time to act take a plastic rubble sack put inside a cloth bag (old pillow case) filled with a small amont of sand 1 kilo ish drain wter from loo then push the sand in the two bags into the u bend until firm then add more sand 5 kilos should do it pack down tight then pour in 1litre of water then close the bags and seal round with gaffer tape.this will allow you to put plastic bags on top to use loo as normal then seal for disposal at appropriate time.

Thanks, I dont think we've had this problem - yet - but I wont rule it out, i know which direction the drains take to the septic tank and I know they are waterlogged - I assumed that gravity would keep things from flowing back up, but Im not an expert on these things!

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Cottage_Economy wrote: »

Being prepared for what you would do if your sleeve did catch on the lamp and knock it on the floor or your teenage kid caught their leg on the table leg and the jolt knocked it over etc etc.

Actually, in the event of the lamp toppling over, the Hurricane lamp is superior to the gas lamp (and indeed, the Tilly Lamp, candles, etc.), due to the inherent safety of its design.