Preparedness for when

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armyknife wrote: »

Till one get a serious illness and suddenly all that hi-tech, cutting edge medical science and modern medicines looks rather handy.

I'm not knocking you or the programme, but it's a past time, how we got to where we are and it's not everything we need for life.

For instance probably one in three or four of us wouldn't have made it 16 years old.

I don't think any of us would actually swap places. It was probably a hard and short life - and just think about Tudor dentistry! :eek: That doesn't stop it being fascinating however - living as we do at a time when high tech has taken over from basic skills. Let's hope we don't get knocked back to a time when we might have to relearn those skills.

ginnyknit

Excellent news re dyson, took both in the shop. sold the worst for £10, will fix the new bits on the other and service it for £35 minus the tenner so £25 - result :j Re-conditioned one was £85 but much prefer to fix my old one. If it lasts another couple of years I will be very happy as I only paid £20 for it originally. I hate Henrys as I used to have to vac the Hobbycraft store everyday with one when they decided a cleaner was false economy when staff could do it ! Memories of the charity shops I worked in that never had a vac supplied so we used whatever cleaner was donated - bring on the duct tape:rotfl:

Daz look forward to celebrating your debt free day, well done for getting so far. :beer:

Ali I often wonder where time went, we have been married 35 years in April :eek: Hope Oh is well enough to celebrate, I have a plan in my head to do something special but have to bide my time as it all depends on the situation nearer the date.

pineapple

ginnyknit wrote: »

I hate Henrys as I used to have to vac the Hobbycraft store everyday with one when they decided a cleaner was false economy when staff could do it ! Memories of the charity shops I worked in that never had a vac supplied so we used whatever cleaner was donated - bring on the duct tape:rotfl:

My very first job (I had to lie and pretend not to have any qualifications to get it :huh:) was as cleaner at a bingo hall in a former cinema. I started when the vac broke down. We had to go from aisle to aisle with a damp mop to pick up bits

RAS

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

I thought the point of recycling and green waste is to AVOID stuff going into landfill. In our area there is a large composting/recylcing plant where the garden/green waste is turned into compost, it also produces some energy in the process. They give out compost every so often for free and also community groups can have some delivered-again for free. The rest is sold. We now can add various veg peelings and food waste-eggshells/teabags etc to the garden waste as well. Obviously most of our waste goes in our own compost bins, but its handy to know.

So that's how you pay for it, you get a joint partnership with a private recycling company and help them to invest in a recycling plant, which then become self funding and takes all your green waste for free. At least that's how they did it here.

Seems crazy if green waste is going in landfill, what is the point people recycling then?

To be fair tho this plant has been up and running for quite a few years, I suspect a council now might struggle with up front costs, no matter how big the later savings are.

You are lucky Ali.

Many municipal composting schemes were stopped a couple of years back as a result of new EU regulations.

Round here the new gig is incinerators. I think the local one is still stalled but......

The big idea is that the Council stop paying landfill tax and they start providing the waste at a lower cost to the company running the incinerator, with district heating as a side line sometimes.

The problem is that the contractor require the Council to provide a minimum amount of rubbish regularly over the 25 year contract. So they have to collect green waste to boost their cubic meterage and obviously if people get better at reducing or re-cycling other waste the Council have to pay penalties for failing to deliver their side of the contract.

Think they are trying to get other Councils to join in but that means transporting the waste longer distances in the first instance.

Butterfly_Brain

sorryImoved wrote: »

Just a thought. It's all very well to stock up on canned goods and dried beans and fruits but lets look back at WWII. What everyone really missed was butter, meat and chocolates or sweets. There are canned butter, freeze dried and canned meats, coffee, tea and items like cocoa powder that we should have supplies of. The trade value of these items make them valuable. If shortages occur please make sure that some of your supplies are items that you can sell or trade to keep your family fed. What other foods were hard to come by then?

• 1940 - January 8: the first foods rationed were butter (4 oz), sugar (12 oz) and ham or bacon (4 oz), per person per week;
• 1940 - March 11: Meat in general was added to the ration list. This wasn't done by weight, but by price. You could spend per person up to 1 shilling and 10 pence on meat, any meat, any cut. But obviously, cheaper cuts gave you more meat for that price. The Ministry of Food estimated that it averaged out to be about 1 pound (450g) of meat a week per person;
• 1940 - July: tea, 2 oz tea per person, per week;
• 1941 - March: Jam, marmalade, syrup, and treacle added to list (8 oz per month);
• 1941 - May 5: Cheese added to ration list. 1 oz per person per week, increased a month later in June to 2 oz per person per week;
• 1941 - June 1: Clothing added to ration list;
• 1941 - July: sugar ration doubled for summer months to encourage people to make their own fruit preserves;
• 1941 - November: Controls on liquid milk;
• 1942 - January. Rice and dried fruit added to ration list;
• 1942 - February 9: Condensed milk, breakfast cereals, tinned tomatoes, tinned peas, and soap added to ration list;
• 1942 - March: Gas and electricity are rationed;
• 1942 - July 26: Sweets and chocolate added to ration list;
• 1942 - August: Biscuits added to ration list;
• 1942 - December: Oats (flaked and rolled) added to ration list;
• 1943 - June: Your jam (or syrup) ration could be taken in sugar instead;
• 1943 - Sausages added to ration list;
• 1945 - May 27: Bacon ration cut from 4 oz to 3 oz, cooking fats from 2 oz to 1 oz, and part of the weekly meat allowance (reduced to 1 shilling and 6 pence by this point) had to be taken in corned beef;
• 1946 - Bread rationing introduced [2];
• 1947 - Potato rationing introduced;
• 1948 - July 25: Flour & bread rationing ends;
• 1949 - March 15: Clothing rationing ends;
• 1950 - May 19: Rationing ends for fruit (tinned and dried), jellies, mincemeat, syrup, treacle and chocolate biscuits;
• 1950 - September: Soap rationing ends;
• 1950 - Sliced, wrapped bread allowed again at stores;

Not to mention alcohol, shampoo, soap-powder, toilet rolls, icing sugar,(in fact it was made illegal to ice cakes during the war), jams and preserves, squashes and juices, canned fruit, furniture and toys because most factories were now making things for the war effort, shoes and boots, underwear including nylons,

grandma247

Alibobsy I will pm you later.

RAS

Yep

What people who did not live through the war do not quite get is that AFTER the war the situation with food and other goods was much worse that during the war.

The Americans not unsurprisingly took the view that the bombed battered, dispossessed and dislocated of Europe had even more need that Britain. Not least because they would have been keen to do better than their recent Allies in Eastern Europe.

Just wish they had remembered this when they went into recent wars.

jk0

Ellen Brown (who wrote 'Web of Debt') looks at the health issues:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GECON-01-271113.html

Wyre

I bought another 2 collapsable lamps today whilst waiting for Mum and the bus to the crematorium today. It's nearly the anniversary of my sister's passing. We were surprised to see roses still on the rememberance roses - and even happier to see some on the ones there for my Grandma and Grandad. None on my sister's and Dad's though.

Hopefully Ginny's lamps will have arrived by now and are in one piece. I have never sent any kind of package or parcel before, so it was a new experience for me hehe.

Butterfly_Brain

jk0 wrote: »

Ellen Brown (who wrote 'Web of Debt') looks at the health issues:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GECON-01-271113.html

All the more reason to get heritage seeds now before they succeed in banning them which they tried to do earlier this year with an EU [STRIKE]diktat[/STRIKE] directive