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Do you play by the rules?

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  • stevemcol
    stevemcol Posts: 1,666 Forumite
    The poll results would have been easier to interpret if there were three options for each question:
    Regularly, Once or Twice or Never

    I've paid cash in hand when asked to because it's none of my business how a tradesman runs his books. I've downloaded but in general if I like the track, I'll buy the CD. I've clipped a car and driven off and still feel guilty to this day.
    I have some teenage misdemeanors but I like to think I'm rehabilitated so chosen not to declare :o!
    Apparently I'm 10 years old on MSE. Happy birthday to me...etc
  • LameWolf
    LameWolf Posts: 11,238 Forumite
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    I quite often pay cash for services - it's just what's convenient for me to do.:o I have no idea if the tradesmen involved declare it or not - that's between them and their conscience.

    Conversely, occasionally I get my dog-sitting money in cash, and I still declare it all honestly to HMRC; I'd be too scared to do otherwise.:eek:

    The only time I ever "fare-dodged" was when I was 12 years old; the fare home should've been 12p (shows how long ago it was):D and I only had 5p on me (it was following a class detention at school, for a misdemeanour I wasn't actually involved in) and the conductor (remember them?:D) let me off the rest of the fare.
    If your dog thinks you're the best, don't seek a second opinion.;)
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    stevemcol, to get action on the "Mods please ban me if I get to 1000 posts" request in your signature you should use the report button for your post.
  • Ergates wrote: »
    If you've just paid someone in cash, in good faith, then no, you've not done anything wrong.

    This is an important point that needs to be made. In the original email it didn't say "without declaring it", just "been paid cash in hand" / "paid cash in hand" and I was so fuming about it that I clicked through to the forum.

    CASH IN HAND IS NOT A CRIME. You can get paid however you want. It is easier to under-declare your income if you get paid cash in hand, sure, but if you DO declare it then there is nothing wrong with it.

    I do the books for myself and my husband (both self-employed). I'm mostly paid by cheque / transfer, he's mostly paid cash - it's just the nature of the jobs we do (I'm a writer, he's a builder). We both declare our income, pay our tax and thereby commit no crime.
  • mancub764
    mancub764 Posts: 8 Forumite
    Many small employers still pay employees in cash- which doesnt have to be declared as you assume that it has been payrolled by an accountant or bookkeeper. A payslip normally shows the deductions.

    I am of the age whereby I am mischievious in supermarkets. I occassionally smuggle out the odd mushroom or tomato - makes the day more interesting.
  • brucie24
    brucie24 Posts: 91 Forumite
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    The only two tresults I find surprising here are the ones for clipping a car and fare dodging. I do however think a 'never' option would have been useful.

    With regard to the traceability of the poll results it could be done technically speaking however actually proving some of the answers were genuine would be rather difficult. Submitting to investigations would not be much fun though. Strange theres been no reply from mods on this though...
  • littlerat
    littlerat Posts: 1,792 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I've answered once or twice to 2, and regularly to a third.

    To be truthful, a lot of people do things for mates, the mate gives them a fiver for their help/petrol and they never declare it. At least in the people I know. In theory is giving them a fiver or tenner different to buying them a takeaway directly? Should 1, both or neither be declared?

    It's obvious somebody is playing it if they do a £500 job cash in hand for £450, but when you're talking small amounts of money to a friend, I'm not sure were the line is drawn - and the couple of times friends have given me a bit it's to cover my petrol to see them etc rather than the actual thing. Morally I don't think that's wrong, but legally it may be.
  • troubrs
    troubrs Posts: 112 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    would have been good to be able to vote at all! because when I tried to I was told I already had voted, despite this being the first time I've seen it!
  • .Johanna.
    .Johanna. Posts: 98 Forumite
    No, carshares don't need to be declared as far as I know as you are not making a profit, just sharing the price of petrol. Wouldn't they ban all the carsharing websites if it was illegal?
    littlerat wrote: »
    I've answered once or twice to 2, and regularly to a third.

    To be truthful, a lot of people do things for mates, the mate gives them a fiver for their help/petrol and they never declare it. At least in the people I know. In theory is giving them a fiver or tenner different to buying them a takeaway directly? Should 1, both or neither be declared?

    It's obvious somebody is playing it if they do a £500 job cash in hand for £450, but when you're talking small amounts of money to a friend, I'm not sure were the line is drawn - and the couple of times friends have given me a bit it's to cover my petrol to see them etc rather than the actual thing. Morally I don't think that's wrong, but legally it may be.
  • Uplink
    Uplink Posts: 262 Forumite
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    A few missing options:

    - Done it for a little while, but I stopped
    - Done if for a long while, but I stopped
    - Doing it sporadically

    In it's current form, you other assume "done it once or twice" means one of the above, or you assume you can only be an angel or a permanent law breaker with no shades of grey (not 3, not 50).

    So you could have had one of those 1-5 radio box answer fields for each question (yay, I found a place where you can actually use those without using a "Agree"-"Disagree" scale).
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