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Kleenezee - Do it or not?

"The Universal Group" were advertising for people to deliver catalogues so I rang to see what they were offering - mainly because I hadn't heard of them before and they turned out to be Kleenezee. Given that the guy had bothered to come out and see me, I let him do his piece. If the figures really are genuine then maybe I'm tempted. Not my ideal way to make money but hey, I could do it.

Just wondered what other MSE members think - there is one thread that says there is money to be made but I wondered how many others had tried and failed/succeeded.

I don't mind working to earn money but I do object to working long hard hours for a pittence.

Given that I've done both Tupperware and Body Shop, should I be twice bitten, thrice shy?

Don't get me wrong, I made some pocket money around Xmas time but that was about all. Currently have a loft full of unusual tupperware samples which I really should unpack and sell plus a box or two of Body Shop stuff. I really don't need a box full of Kleeneze as well! :)
7 Angel Bears for LovingHands Autumn Challenge. 10 KYSTGYSES. 3 and 3/4 (ran out of wool) small blanket/large square, 2 premie blankets, 2 Angel Claire Bodywarmers
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  • Bossyboots
    Bossyboots Posts: 6,758 Forumite
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    My friend and her husband did this and gave it up pretty quickly. The return they were getting was not worth the work they needed to put into and they are certainly not work shy.

    I have noticed that in fact all our local distributors have disappeared and it is months since we had a catalogue. One of the problems with Kleeneze was (not sure if it is still the same) that you don't get a "patch". Consequently we would get four or five catalogues in the same week from different people so most of those distributors would lose out and get nothing back for their efforts. Not only that, but in the end we got sick of being bombarded by these wretched things week after week so first I put notes out asking for no more catalogues to be delivered and if the same person did so again it just went in the recycling.
  • Poppycat
    Poppycat Posts: 19,899 Forumite
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    It may be profitable in some areas all I no is that the last 17 years in my last house we had a new distributor of those wretched sales catalogues almost every few months, so I assume that many gave up as it was pointless delivering them for what pittance they got
  • froggy_girl128
    froggy_girl128 Posts: 1,551 Forumite
    My bf did it while he was out of work - he started in the local area was making £300 a month for 2 drops a week (taking 4hrs to deliver and pick up). Lots of people are doing kleeneze and you dont want to deliver 2 days after someone else. I now do a different work from home business called eniva.
    I have enough money to last me the rest of my life, unless I buy something
  • nej
    nej Posts: 1,526 Forumite
    I did it for a year but was too much for me on top of a regular job. My father-in-law does it as his full-time income, though, and has done for a few years now.

    He just retails. He did try recruiting but gave it up as a waste of time and effort.
  • Twopints
    Twopints Posts: 1,776 Forumite
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    It is possible to make some money out of just delivering the catalogues, collecting orders, delivering product etc., but as others said it's a lot of work for not a lot of return. Slogging round delivering catalogues in the p***ing rain on a dark December night will put off all but the most determined. The trick with this is to build up a customer base i.e. once you have delivered catalogues 2 or 3 times to the same area e.g. a particular street you will have a list of customers who have placed orders. You then only deliver to them on that street and "carpet bomb" another street, repeat this process, gradually building a bigger customer base. After a while re-do the original street.

    The only way to make real money is to get into the recruiting side and build and maintain a network - that's why it's called network marketing :rolleyes:

    If this is what you want to do, then you need to ensure that your sponsor is going to actively recruit and place distributors in your part of the network. Usually they will do this if they think YOU are going to actively recruit good distributors as well - if you make money, they make money. The trick is to move up the network as quickly as possible. You have to do a certain amount of retailing yourself but the quicker you can get others doing it instead, the quicker you can take a cut...

    If you are really only interested in doing the catalogues and will stick at it, you need to be organised and have a system (for putting the catalogues and leaflets together along with collection slips, order forms etc) and a plan of where you will deliver, when you will collect catalogues (and hopefully orders), when you will re-visit for "stragglers", when you will deliver product and collect the money. This all takes time. Also you need to find an area that is not already over-run with Kleeneze distributors doing the same.

    :beer:
    Not even wrong
  • gerturdeanna
    gerturdeanna Posts: 4,350 Forumite
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    I did Kleeneze for about 9 months. Started in the summer and finished in the winter. I ended up with my sponsor being in Essex whilst I'm here in Manchester!! Only even converse via email or phone. Saw him twice. I went to the Birmingham conference with him and that was ace!! Everyone being rewarded with cars and holidays etc. If you have the mind set and the sponsors help, then I'm sure it can be a good thing. My partner didn't want to get involved so that didn't help.I did everything I was meant to do ie build up a customer base, try to recruit new distributors but in the end it was more hassle than it was worth. You have to buy the catalogues yourself so if people don't return them, you have to go back for them again and again. I think in the whole nine months I earnt a tenner for myself. So in my opinion, not a good idea!!!
    Made it - 15 years married!! Finally!! xx:beer:
  • alex£
    alex£ Posts: 40 Forumite
    Hi,

    Firstly i have to admit to never working for Kleeneze or any other MLM/network marketiing company. My experience has been with people working for them trying very hard to recruit me in a way that a cult would be ashamed of!

    The first time ( a long time ago, I admit) was someone trying to recruit me for Amway (just do a search on that company!), then, last year I responded to an advert (which, naturally, made no mention of Kleeneze!) and getting a promotional DVD telling me how I could be a millionaire!

    The bloke that dropped off the promotional material really bent my ear about the great benefits and how I'd be rich etc, I remained polite, but definately wouldn't next time!

    I feel that selling on ebay or answering surveys would be a low risk way to make a second income, but paying a company for the priviledge of selling for them is simply not on.
    Love like you've not been hurt, dance like no one is looking, look at money saving expert every day!:j
  • full-time-mum
    full-time-mum Posts: 1,962 Forumite
    alex£ wrote: »
    The bloke that dropped off the promotional material really bent my ear about the great benefits and how I'd be rich etc, I remained polite, but definately wouldn't next time!

    I have to say that the guy who spoke to me wasn't particularly pushy. He showed me all the literature and talked about how it works - I did keep him on his toes by asking questions - I got the feeling that he was used to doing his speech uninterupted.

    The only thing that I liked compared to the party plan I've done before is that you can have a large quantity of stock on sale or return so that you could set up a stall at School Xmas fayres.

    If it wasn't going to cost to have a go then I probably would give it a try but it is a minimum of £75 (which you get back if you stick at it a year) but you would probably need to spend more like £125 to get enough catalogues + cost of next set of catalogues in 6 months time so I am probably coming down on the 'its not worth the hassle' side of the fence (the weather today hasn't done anything to encourage me to a yes :rotfl: )
    7 Angel Bears for LovingHands Autumn Challenge. 10 KYSTGYSES. 3 and 3/4 (ran out of wool) small blanket/large square, 2 premie blankets, 2 Angel Claire Bodywarmers
  • alba37
    alba37 Posts: 2,616 Forumite
    I would think a better option is to do phone book/yellow pages/local directory etc deliveries. You get good money although it hard work at the time, but atleast once they're delivered you don't need to pick them back up!
  • Poppycat
    Poppycat Posts: 19,899 Forumite
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    I got a new yellow pages 2-3 weeks back and a week later a little lad walked up our path and asked for the old one, wondered if they now get recycled.
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