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  • Jeepers if you kept 3-5 days water in a bug out bag you wouldn't be able to lift it.....even if you kept it just to drinking water and had wet wipes for washing its still very heavy.....people don't realise how heavy water is really nor as you say how much they need. I keep water purification tabs in as well. I have tried them and water doesn't taste any worse than what comes out of our taps - it always tastes as if you are drinking swimming bath water as so much chlorine,the reason why I only drink bottled water. I use filtered tap water for hot drinks and cooking.

    What makes me laugh is how when I first mentioned about preparing at home and set up my group and website in 2001 people laughed at me and said as so many do on the store cupboard list even now how they can go and buy what they want no need to have anything in or the very normal one ' I have no room' and now my HA is so happy at the idea and even talking about grants to help educate people about it and the preparing at home side as well.......I am just amazed what I have been going on about for years and thought mad is now suddenly thought to be the way forward........

    Hugs and Lovexxx
    Need to get back to getting finances under control now kin kid at uni as savings are zilch

    Fashion on a ration coupon 2021 - 21 left
  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    edited 11 August 2012 at 7:44AM
    Just a quick post to say how sorry I am to hear your news Byatt. My sister-in-law has had the beginnings of dementia for some time now, but it's progressing very very slowly in her case. I hope the same applies to your sister.

    On other matters: It just shows how posts can be misunderstood when you're not speaking "face to face" and can't see expressions. We're all in it together and doing our best eh?

    eta: Hope you don't mind me poking me snitch in but remember Pops, it's only a bargain if you really need it and can make use of it.

    Thanks for that...I don't mind being criticised or people disagreeing with me it depends how it is done, if I trounce off I don't look any better, what's that saying about being a "broad church here!"

    People used to come to me for advice and life was good even when Mum was ill but life is so ephemeral and changes so quickly. Now I am having to find my way through difficult times and wonder what the future holds...

    On a forum or in a text you don't see the expression on someone's face or hear the tone of a voice so misunderstandings can and do happen I guess, hopefully they pass over and are forgotten most of the time...

    I try so hard to make my posts clear and cover all possible angles to avoid being misunderstood but it can still happen.

    True, I am buying whilst I can and items that will have to last in the future...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

    "Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in" ~ Alan Alda
  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    edited 11 August 2012 at 5:44AM
    fuddle wrote: »
    Aw gawd, I dunno if I can do it lol I just don't fancy it. :o

    Bread problem in the halo. It hasn't cooked underneath so I have had to turn it round. I think it's because I have had it sat on a casserole dish. I need a holed plate so the air can get right round.

    If I sat it on the wire rack with greaseproof paper, would that work?

    bread is done. Apart from teething problems I am quiet pleased.

    Think I may have a go at making my own bread again. You did the right thing Fuddle on the link I sent to a site explaining how to do bread in a halogen oven, it did say put it on a rack and get some air underneath the loaf.

    I'm glad that you were given a rack with your HO.
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

    "Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in" ~ Alan Alda
  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    jpscloud wrote: »
    Fuddle - I don't think the holey aluminium plate that comes with the accessories bundle would be right for bread - the reason I know this is that I tried to cook an uncooked-dough pizza on mine! It kind of sank into the holes and made an almighty mess on the holey plate! It didn't cook underneath.

    I think greaseproof paper on top of the rack sounds good. I may experiment with some rolls one day soon.

    One site said non stick spray on the rack etc...but I suspect your suggetsion could work or baking parchment? I have never heard of a non stick spray...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

    "Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in" ~ Alan Alda
  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    Mrs_Chip wrote: »
    Please everyone who has bowed out, don't stay away, there is room for all views and opinions here. Sometime it is clear as day that a poster is not coping in the RW and we are as helpful and supportive as we can be, but sometimes that also means biting our tongues or holding back our true views. As someone said, it is so much harder to read real meanings when we are not face to face, so generally I tend to cut way more slack on here than I do in RW, and I def try not to post right away if something has got my goat!

    That's pretty much my attitude and always has been. Sometimes I'll say nothing or if I do I'll try and do it with respect or diplomatically or accept our views are different. Some people are blunt.

    The other night someone asked for help on another thread and suddenly the thread went off in a different direction and the poster found herself being criticised about something that was not why she had started the thread and it turned un-necessarily nasty. It does happen...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

    "Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in" ~ Alan Alda
  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    Fuddle can I just add re your liver! Best to try lambs liver for your first time, it's not as strong as ox or pigs liver. I like to cook it so it's still slightly pink in the middle. Hope this isn't reminding you of Rosemary's Baby!!

    MM

    I cheated by buying mine ready done but I later discovered it was to serve two people...it had two lambs livers in it so next time I probably could take the ready meal apart. Freeze one liver for another time. Cook the other liver in the SC add some extra gravy, onion and bacon. Cook some mash potato or potatoes, some veg...and get a couple of meals out of the one ready meal.

    That way I am not having to buy/cook raw liver...mine was Lamb's liver...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

    "Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in" ~ Alan Alda
  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    edited 11 August 2012 at 2:40AM
    jamanda wrote: »
    Anybody watching ITV? On about food banks and people not being able to feed themselves and their kids.

    A bit of an eye-opener!

    Will try and watch it even if it is depressing viewing...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

    "Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in" ~ Alan Alda
  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    kidcat wrote: »
    Wow what a marathon reading session.

    Byatt - sending hugs your way, life is so cruel sometimes xx

    Smiley - yay got to love a tax refund. Please get yourself a treat too! x

    We have been to the zoo today, I was up early and organised, my parents decided to come along too- I tried the tactful, no really we are fine thank you, moved to the please go out and enjoy yourselves today and ended with really we will be fine, looking forward to having a day out alone!! None of them worked!! Thankfully the days rest yesterday and the careful prep and planning this morning paid off and all the kids were on the whole ok.

    Taken me ages to post this - having dramas with group again, leader/chairperson has left at best sarcastic messages on my facebook post, at worst they are nasty. A few of the group have messaged me again trying to support me - but are all as confused as I am at her attitude, and all trying to work out exactly what she thinks I have done to deserve it.
    Have made the decision to withdraw from the group in order to preserve my sanity! As I have said to the people who have messaged me - I will not do conflict or confrontation, I have been there done that one and have several of the T-shirts, and am not going there again.

    So am sending hugs to everyone tonight - the tougher things get the more important it is to stick together, Theres a famous saying I am sure which says I may not agree with what you say but I defend your right to say it - and to some extent that has always been a theme here, we may not always agree ( and what family does) but we all support each others right to say it.

    You'll probably feel all the better in the long run, in time there may be another support group but you do such a lot already...probably many of your ideas have been taken up and that is why things have progressed as they have...

    I agree with your last paragraph...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

    "Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in" ~ Alan Alda
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 12,492 Forumite
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    pops. you should add edits to your posts, rather than make so many additional posts one after the other
  • meme30
    meme30 Posts: 534 Forumite
    Kitcat:- I'm sure you have enough conflict in your house without having to cope with this woman's nastiness. It is a shame that you will lose your support group though. :(

    PAH:- I have only one box of tea bags! I feel I have a long way to go! On the other hand I do have Eight tins of loose tea which is my preferred drink. I will pick up more tea bags though because if tea prices go through the roof 'Begger's can't be choosers!'

    I will watch the food programme tonight. I know that food banks are not a new thing, but it does feel that they are becoming more widespread.
    In many ways I am surprised that there is not more reaction about there being more and more of them. It's not just the media, people will say 'it's terrible isn't it' and put it from their minds. I know a lot of it is, 'I'm alright Jack' mentality but there is also a fear and a stigma in this as well.
    I have talked to a few people on low incomes with small children who will lose out when the 'bedroom tax' comes in. They have said that if needs be, they will seek help from a food bank but because they work it feels shameful that they cannot provide for their families using only their wages.

    I think these programmes will help people focus on store cupboards, but many won't know where to start. Many have been brought up on 'Best Before' dates and do not understand that you can ignore them on many foodstuffs.

    Oh dear, the BBC have just announced that Bread prices are set too shoot up because of the poor harvests around the world.!

    So then girls, (and Popperwell :)) Time to gird your loins! :rotfl: I have always wanted to say that!! :rotfl: I think it means 'Pull your Knickers up':rotfl: I don't know what you are supposed to do after they are up.....or why they were down in the first place!
    Sorry couldn't resist it!:p
    Give us the strength to encounter that which is to come, that we may be brave in peril, constant in tribulation, temparate in wrath, and in all changes of fortune, and down to the gates of death, loyal and loving to one another.”
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