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Guardian: Marxism on the Rise!

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  • Rotor
    Rotor Posts: 1,049 Forumite
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    "Get rid of the rich" may well be on the rise, so is " Get rid of the foreigners"
    The extremes of left AND right garner more support in times of trouble. Fortunately those of the centre ground are numerous and sensible.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Big difference between socialism and communism...

    The biggest one being that socialists generally allow themselves to be voted out, so that there's abject political and economic failure for less of the time.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    On reading the article, it sounds more like wishful thinking than anything based in reality.

    Where exactly is Marxism on the rise? The Greeks voted for a bunch of loonies, some of whom claim to be Marxists although most are Eurocommnists who are mad leftists but not Marxist.

    Apart from that? Lutte Ouviere scored a little less than a massive 0.6% of the popular vote in the French presidential election.

    In the most recent 2 elections outside Europe, no Marxist party stood in the Mexican election or the Egyptian election.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    So the Poles are now flocking to Cuba then?
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    From the article;

    The disappearance of our factories, that's to say de-industrialisation of our countries and the outsourcing of industrial work to the countries where labour is less expensive and more docile, what else is this other than an act in the class struggle by the ruling bourgeoisie?"


    ..........




    It's this sort of sentiment that exposes Marxism as shallow.

    Where I work poundshops are on the rise and people adore primark, why, because they're cheap. Customers couldn't give a fig for the plight of poor Indoensian sweat shop workers.

    The left endlessly blame global corporations for offshoring, and yet even on this very website we have plenty of fervent lefties that came here TO FIND CHEAPER products!

    WE are as much to blame as the velvet glove corporate world.


    The left never face up to this invonvienient truth.
  • Running_Horse
    Running_Horse Posts: 11,809 Forumite
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    The people are looking forward to a better tomorrow!
    "The People" have never voted for communism anywhere, and never will.
    Been away for a while.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    i can't wait for the coup and the installation of a brutal military dictatorship to oppress the living daylights out of us, whilst telling us that we, the workers, are now in charge.

    REJOICE!

    Rejoice?

    You are MrRee and I claim my prize :D
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    From the article;



    Where I work poundshops are on the rise and people adore primark, why, because they're cheap. Customers couldn't give a fig for the plight of poor Indoensian sweat shop workers.

    The left endlessly blame global corporations for offshoring, and yet even on this very website we have plenty of fervent lefties that came here TO FIND CHEAPER products!

    WE are as much to blame as the velvet glove corporate world.

    Many people don't choose to use poundland, something bargains and primark it is simply the only way they can afford to make their money stretch.

    My MIL loves Eastex, nice premium oldie brand, the styles my be staid but the manufacture is far east.

    It is rare to find premium brands not manufactured in the far east.available. you may choose to pay more for a "Premium "product but you are merely contributing to the merchants profit margin rather than shoring up some western manufacturing outpost.

    Don't doubt there are some super premium products out of the grasp of the common man.

    They probably don't give a fig but they don't have an alternative choice at those price points.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Is the rise of something like Marxism a desperate grab for anything resembling a solution to a problem ridden world?

    Governments we all look up to for guidance seem devoid of ideas and lacking conviction. Perhaps the rise of extremist views is more symptom of our malaise than cure?
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
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    Never mind, if old Toastie and his crazed pals at the Grauniad get their wish, we'll all be able to shop at GUM and queue for The Potato they have in stock that day.
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