birth certificate and dna test help

PreludeForTimeFeelers

It's quite important that you act quickly - if you believe that you're not the father then you need to tell the CSA immediately. They will say that as you're on the birth certificate then they'll presume paternity - after all you were married at the time of conception and you're on the birth certificates. You need to make them aware that you now have doubts about the paternity, and that you are willing to pay for a DNA test to prove things one way or another. I believe that the cost is currently about £300 or so, and you can either pay this in advance or you can pay it after the test - its cheaper to pay in advance, and you would get the money refunded if the tests show you're not the dad.
They will do this, but you may have to push for it. The important thing is to make sure they've recorded that you're disputing paternity. If you get nowhere with the caseworker, ask to keep to a supervisor/team leader as the sooner you get this sorted one way or the other, the better. In the meantime, keep 20% of your income to one side as if tests show you're the dad then you will have to pay this dating back to last week when they sent the mail out to you.

dt3887

McKneff - not very helpfull post, but il still take time to reply to you as much as i can. - exactly as it says, i have been told by several people that she has had several affairs, including during the rough time of conception when we were geographically apart - two of the people who informed me were actually my neighbours at the time.....
at no point have i said i hope it comes back as negative. quite the contrary actually, but would like to know either way to know what way to go down.

cheers prelude been anticipating your reply .
jumped straight on the phone to CSA, and spoken to them twice and reiterated that i wantn the test, also put it in writing to them and sent it in with all my wage slips. im opting for them paying it them billing me if they come back positive. not actually spoken to my caseworker yet, she seems more interested in talking to the ex...

i HAVE been told that i am able to make the payments to CSA and they will hold them until the tests are done, then send it in the right direction. is this true?

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Nothing useful to add exept I hope you manage to sort things out and get to see your children again. I can't understand Women who do that?
I was on the receiving end though as my ex's sister told his parents that I was a sl4g and that my Son was not their grandchild??? Joke is my Son is his Father's double both in looks and manorism and my ex trusted me completly (he is 100% the Father) people should mind their own business!

Marisco

McKneff wrote: »

It makes me very sad that the children are in the middle of all this.

Can you imagine how they feel and what kind of an impact this will have on them.

Just remember, the first line of your first post said 'I have been told by several people' whats that all about then, you believe people over the mother of your children.

Could you answer me this, are you hoping that these children are actually yours, I get the feeling that you hope not. Sorry, but that's the way its coming over

I don't really think it matters how the doubt started, once it's there it will eat away until it's sorted. A DNA test is the sensible way to sort it out once and for all. The kids don't need to know anything about it, unless of course he's not the dad. If he is, no harm done, if he's not, why should he pay CSA for kids that are not his?

dt3887

so far im impressed, not much of a troll bash on the thread.......so far.

thats exactly it marisco.

if it DOES come back negative, thats where the kids being young is better as oppose to them bein older.

cheers for the help so far guys

McKneff

I dont see what was unhelpful at all in my post.

And also I didnt say you hope it would come back negative, I said it was the way it was comong over.

I expected at least something along the lines of 'I would be devastated if these children turned out not to be mine'

Having said all that, my sincere apologies if I have offended you.
Hope all goes well for you and your children.

dt3887

no worries, i prob took it the wrong way.

amyloofoo

Hi, I think most of your questions have been answered at this stage, but just wanted to share this with you:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/ChildMaintenance/IfyourealreadyusingtheChildSupportAgency/DG_199098

It answers most of the questions you asked:

Cost: The fee for testing three people (two adults and one child) is £252.00. If the person named as the parent pays when they return their appointment form, they can pay a discounted rate of £187.20 (presumably this is doubled with two children)

Steps taken:
Step 1The DNA testing company sends an information pack to the person named as the parent and the parent with care. The pack includes an appointment form that the person named as the parent should complete and return.
Step 2

The person named as the parent chooses a doctor to perform the test.
Step 3

The doctor will receive a testing kit from the testing company.
Step 4

Depending on which test has been chosen, the doctor will take either:

• some cheek cells from the inside of the mouth using a small sponge on a stick
• a blood sample

Step 5

The doctor will send the samples to the testing company.
Step 6

The testing company will send the results to the parent with care, the person named as parent and to the CSA. The results may also be given to a court as evidence.

Mojisola

amyloofoo wrote: »

Hi, I think most of your questions have been answered at this stage, but just wanted to share this with you:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/ChildMaintenance/IfyourealreadyusingtheChildSupportAgency/DG_199098

It answers most of the questions you asked:

dt3887 wrote: »

when i spoke to csa yesterday, they told me that she "isnt very keen" on doing a dna test, and if i want to get it done, i will have to go through the courts to get my name removed from the birth certificates and then have the tests done under reasonable doubt rules.

But not this bit. Has anyone else come across this before?

I think it's just plain wrong because I can't see a father would be able to get his name taken off a BC without DNA evidence that he wasn't the father. Catch 22.

Fission

The most crucial legal factor is whether the father denies paternity before he is assessed.

If he does, the matter has to be sorted out before he is assessed and CSA can arrange and pay for that. If the tests are positive, the father has to pay for them.

If he only denies paternity later, its up to him to get it sorted out by going to the magistrates court and in effect appealing against being treated as the father when (in his view) he isn't. The court can order a DNA test and the results will be decisive.

Those who have pointed out possible effects on the children are right. The man concerned will be saying that he isn't their father. The children may never hear of that in those terms, but they'll know they're being asked for a DNA sample and sooner or later they'll put two and two together.