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  • melysion
    melysion Posts: 801 Forumite
    Well, I shall keep you updated as to the end result. But I am told that Santander is definately aware and that they asked for the details of my friend before they went ahead and made the offer - so we will see.
  • In a similar situation to you melysion, what was your outcome then?
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,277 Forumite
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    This is the section of AfI criteria on deposits;-
    Proof of deposit

    We may request proof of deposit, for example if a First Time
    Buyer was putting down a large deposit. We always require
    evidence of the deposit where it is £100,000 or more and
    is not coming from the simultaneous sale of a borrower’s
    existing property.

    We can accept deposits provided by gift or loan.

    We will not accept a gifted deposit if:

    provided by the vendor (unless an acceptable new build incentive from the builder/developer);
    protected by a Deed of Trust (or similar);
    the person providing it will be living in the property, but is not named on the mortgage;
    or there is a beneficial/equitable ownership/interest in the property.

    The use of a second charge could indicate the amount provided
    is not a gift and further clarification may be required. We do not
    allow a second charge on any flexible mortgage products.
    Where the source of deposit is a loan, you should provide the
    following details in the notes section on Introducer Internet:

    amount;
    lender (explain background if not a financial institution);
    loan terms (e.g. interest rate, payments required);
    any security required e.g. second charge; and confirmation that payments have been factored into affordability.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Hi Melysion

    What was the outcome?

    Did your mortgage go through and complte successfully?

    Thanks
  • melysion
    melysion Posts: 801 Forumite
    Yes it did. Completed in October
  • phildamb
    phildamb Posts: 194 Forumite
    melysion wrote: »
    I'm a FTB . My deposit is a gifted one. Its from a friend, not a relative. Its a genuine gift. I mentioned this to the IFA I initially spoke to when considering my options and he didnt bring it up as a potential problem. I also mentioned it to my eventual mortgage broker (L&C) and gave him the name and address of my friend so that the lender could contact him at a later date. Again, it wasnt mentioned that it could be a potential problem

    Having done some investigation, I'm now worried that, because this is a friend and not a relative, the mortage lender will refuse me the mortgage.

    The mortgage application was a slightly painful experience as the mortgage broker made a few mistakes with the application so I'm not convinced that the fact its a gifted deposit from a friend has been recorded. Who knows?

    Anyway - I have the mortgage in advance and things are moving along - albeit really slowly - but I'd rather know now that this is doomed to failure than a month or so down the line. The lender hasnt asked anything about the deposit yet but I'm sure it will come up at some point.

    Thanks in advance for your advice.

    My mortgage was under an identical situation. If they have concerns they will give you something to get them to sign stating they have no financial investment in the property and that it is a gifted deposit and not a loan. The same situation occurs with new builds who give you a part of the deposit. Its not a new thing to banks and L&C are usually quite right on these, when I applied for mine they didn't ask at any point where the deposit came from and it was only later they did ask and they just pointed out that if the property was ever repossessed the lender of the deposit would get nothing as they wouldn't be legally entitled to anything.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    phildamb wrote: »
    they just pointed out that if the property was ever repossessed the lender of the deposit would get nothing as they wouldn't be legally entitled to anything.

    The creditors of the donor can overturn the house purchase and recover the money from the sale procceds. If the donor was in financial difficulty prior to making the gift. Then their claim takes precedence over the mortgage lender. The mortgage lender takes the loss if one is crystallised. Hence the issue with gifts from unrelated parties.
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