bay shenanigans?

raddy59

I bid and lost on this watch:
MENS SEIKO LM 36000 MANUAL WINDING SS ARABIC LINEN DIAL 5740-8000 | eBay

Would you say it is the same in every as this one
MENS SEIKO LM 36000 MANUAL WINDING SS ARABIC LINEN DIAL 5740-8000 | eBay

Description is uncannily the same - even down to the specified corrosion near the crown.

What do you think?
What shoud I do - I'm well angry!

Crowqueen

Not a lot you can do, as you lost. You may or may not have been shilled, but I'd say it was a lucky escape if anything.

This suggests the ID is not a shill. Only 23% of bids with the same seller. They buy a lot of watches, sure, but they may for instance be a dealer or a collector and have only won a couple out of that long list.

Meanwhile, the seller may not want to sell at that price; the winning bidder may yet be about to leave a neg for them not sending out what they sold them.

hermum

Maybe the winning bidder decided they wanted to cancel the listing & the seller decided to relist rather than 2nd chance offer it.
Contact the seller & ask if it's the same watch & why they're relisting.
I'd save my energy for something worth being well angry about.
They're business sellers selling as a private seller, so I'd give them a wide berth & find another seller.

porto_bello

It's the same watch - no doubt about that.

So just before the end of the auction, someone repeatedly nudged up the bids by $50 a time and continued to push beyond the current auction price, incrementally to an undetermined level, for reasons that (hopefully the expressions won't offend) are 'unclear' and 'illogical'.

Then, within 2 hours of the auction closing, the same watch reappeared on eBay. So for reasons equally unclear and illogical, either the dead keen bidder pulled out of the transaction after winning, or it just so happened that the (private) seller just happened to have another, identical expensive watch in stock.

However, that follow-up listing has now been cancelled, and the item is 'unavailable', but the private seller does (at present) have 68 different other, rather expensive watches for sale... both mens' and womens'.

[I noticed that in answer to neutral feedback stating that a watch did not work, the seller wrote that the battery discharged whilst caught in the delay of a postal strike... sure must have been a long, long, l-o-n-g postal strike!]

There's much that doesn't add up here - I would completely avoid this seller and their items.

Crowqueen

Except that the winner on the auction has been bidding on a lot of other items too - look at the spreadsheet I linked to, or click on the bidder's name before jumping to any conclusions, that is not the classic pattern of a shiller. Without any corroborating evidence - regular feedback left, a longer bid history, knowing the details on the two accounts, similar listing style and so on, we cannot tell just from that bid pattern. It could be nibbling to find OP's max.

Accusing someone of shilling in public is accusing them of a crime, so before someone starts throwing the word around here with the seller's ID visible, make sure you get your facts right.

I agree for one reason or another the sale didn't go through, and the seller is probably going to face a non-performing report, but that is not looking like a shill ID to me.