Uni Dilemma

Blacksheep1979

studentphil wrote: »

I think you will find room space is a huge issue at many larger universities and it really is an issue and so sometimes departments have to have two lectures and one tutorial rather than one lecture and two tutorials as they just do not have enough tutorial rooms available to offer that many tutorials.
Which does reduce the the perrsonal feel of the place.

Plus, at a larger university given student numbers you may get a tutorial with 15-25 people in compared to a tutorial of 8-12 at a smaller place.

Nope I haen't found that - neither at warwick or manchester and friends at nottingham, bristol, bath, durham, cambridge, oxford haven't found that either.

studentphil wrote: »

It depends on the subject but some subjects would perfer to have more tutorials than lectures.

As anyone semi- read in educational theory would know the lecture is not an effective teaching method and is 100s of years out of date.

I do just wonder if you have ever tried to book a room at a university as it is near impossible given the number of classes they have to fit in,

Of course having studied so much on educational theory you'll know that at university you are there to learn, not be taught and lectures are designed to keep you apace of where you are meant to be in your studies. Tutorials and seminars are there to help the understanding.

studentphil

Blacksheep1979 wrote: »

Nope I haen't found that - neither at warwick or manchester and friends at nottingham, bristol, bath, durham, cambridge, oxford haven't found that either.




Of course having studied so much on educational theory you'll know that at university you are there to learn, not be taught and lectures are designed to keep you apace of where you are meant to be in your studies. Tutorials and seminars are there to help the understanding.

It is well documented that lectures are a touch wasted as people can not really listen closely for more than about 20 mins, if people do not understand the lecturer does not always know and can not reinforce, it is a passive leaning method, people often do not have the ability to take notes that are good enough as the lecturer talks too fast.

Blacksheep1979

As stated above - their main aim is not as a teaching/learning method per se but to keep the students informed as to where they should be in their own studies so as not to fall behind.

studentphil

Blacksheep1979 wrote: »

As stated above - their main aim is not as a teaching/learning method per se but to keep the students informed as to where they should be in their own studies so as not to fall behind.

It depends some people think you should have teaching at university and some people go down this "reading for a degree route".

I take the line that you go to university to be taught and guided my "masters" so that does make a lecture a teaching method.

melancholly

phil - any chance you could leave this debate for another thread so that the OP gets their points answered?

we've done the 'usefulness of lectures' before and it's a bit unfair to hijack this thread to go over old ground.

SamMoffatt28

Just to set the record straight Uclan isnt exactly a small uni - with around 35000 students I'd say it was pretty large, in fact its one of the largest Uni's in the UK. I think the trouble here with most people suggesting Manchester instead of Preston (when they've probably never even been to Uclan)because its an 'ex poly' is sheer snobbery. Lancaster Uni used to be a Poly but that doesnt seem to affect its reputation

Also around 93% of all students from Uclan go straight into employment after graduation, which I think is a pretty good indicator of the success of the Uni.

And as for you Phil - you're a grade A Pillock

studentphil

SamMoffatt28 wrote: »

Just to set the record straight Uclan isnt exactly a small uni - with around 35000 students I'd say it was pretty large, in fact its one of the largest Uni's in the UK. I think the trouble here with most people suggesting Manchester instead of Preston (when they've probably never even been to Uclan)because its an 'ex poly' is sheer snobbery. Lancaster Uni used to be a Poly but that doesnt seem to affect its reputation

Also around 93% of all students from Uclan go straight into employment after graduation, which I think is a pretty good indicator of the success of the Uni.

And as for you Phil - you're a grade A Pillock

Oh right, but is that 93% into graduate jobs or working at call centres? That stat is a bit meaningless unless you know what sort of work they are getting.

SamMoffatt28

studentphil wrote: »

Oh right, but is that 93% into graduate jobs or working at call centres? That stat is a bit meaningless unless you know what sort of work they are getting.

Phil everything you say is meaningless

tr3mor

studentphil wrote: »

Oh right, but is that 93% into graduate jobs or working at call centres? That stat is a bit meaningless unless you know what sort of work they are getting.

Crikey! Phil said something sensible! Well done mate! :beer:

studentphil

SamMoffatt28 wrote: »

Phil everything you say is meaningless

So what is the answer then is it 93% into graduate jobs?

And remember that might be within 6 months of leaving, so that could mean up to 5 months of unemployment.

Therefore, that stat might not be a stunning as it first seems.