Few questions regarding paternity

BitterAndTwisted

It makes her JK material because she doesn't know for certain who the biological father is. Not having a child and just sleeping with two men at the same time who could have fathered a child makes her so. In my opinion. You are welcome to have a totally different view.

Hootie19

Well, she ended the relationship with the first man becausse she and the second man, with whom she had been good friends for 18 months, realised they had more than just-friends feelings for each other.

Not many of those on the (thankfully very few) JK programmes I've seen.

So not sleeping with two men at the same time at all.

Mojisola

Hootie19 wrote: »

I get what you're saying pollypenny, but it's not like she's taking it deceptively. She has been quite upfront about the possibility of another man being the father. The birth-certificate-father is refusing the DNA test. He won't be dissuaded from his view that the child is his.

I still think it's wrong of her to take money from the "father".

He could be saving it for his child or spending it on the child when he/she visits him.

I know men can get a court order if they dispute the paternity of a child. I don't see why a mother couldn't do the same to make the paternity clear - for the child's sake.

If the other possible father did join the forces, he could be traced.

mountainofdebt

Forget it being JK material, or the moral debate on whether the BC father is the biological father, is no-one thinking of the future where by the child grows up and has relationships of their own?

The thought of them 'dating' a potential relation is just too gross imo

As for getting a connection with the child by double barrelling the surname is clutching at straws ...

Mind you, it sounds as if BC father is burying his head in the sand by not having the test - but if there was any doubt and just because the midwife says its all right doesn't make it so, you would have thought he would have asked for one himself alot earlier

kingfisherblue

What about the rights of the child? The child surely has the right to know whether or not the man s/he calls daddy is in fact his/her dad.

I would suggest that your friend approaches a solicitor and asks whether a DNA test can be enforced in order to protect the rights of the child.

And FWIW, I agree with Mojisola, if the other potential father did join the forces, it may be possible to trace him. It's worth a try at the very least - after all, he could be missing out on parenthood.

pollypenny

True story;

a teacher who'd been at my school for years greeted a new Y7 pupil with;
' John Jones' boy!'

The response - 'No, sir! He lives next door!'

Strong genes will out.

thehappybutterfly

Hootie19 wrote: »

Well, she ended the relationship with the first man becausse she and the second man, with whom she had been good friends for 18 months, realised they had more than just-friends feelings for each other.

Not many of those on the (thankfully very few) JK programmes I've seen.

So not sleeping with two men at the same time at all.

Not much of a gap between the two relationships if either one of them could be the father......

BTW - the "birth certificate father" sounds like a control freak. He seems to be "deciding" everything from who the father is to the surname configuration. Why is he so against mum's surname being part of her baby's name? And I'm pretty sure the mother would be the best person to decide who the father is. As for the midwife, might she be being kind by saying she's sure he's the father? Just a thought. She might have said the same thing if the other man had been the current partner.

Yorkie1

Hootie19 wrote: »

The couple were together for a very short time before the pregnancy.

They lived together for a very short time after the birth, before splitting up. Acrimoniously.

The man's name is on the child's birth certificate. The child has his surname.

The man has been voluntarily paying 10% of his income to the mother as maintenance.

It is possible that another man may be the father.



After the very acrimonious split, they then got on well together, but have once again fallen out.



The mother wants to know:

Can she double-barrell the child's name so that her surname is part of the child's name.

If so, can she do this without the man's agreement?

If so, how can this be done?

If they had a DNA test done, which showed that the other man is the father, could the birth certificate be changed ?

If the "current father" is shown not to be the father, could he make the mother repay the maintenance that he has paid to date?

If the "current father" does not consent to provide DNA for a paternity test, then this idea is a non-starter. And it's a criminal offence to try to obtain their DNA without their knowledge and consent, for the purposes of testing.

amus

Not really very 'scientific' but who does the kid actually look like, can you pick out features which match either of the Fathers?

I only ask because if I had any doubts about who my kids Father is (I dont) I would just have to look at the hands and ears and would know straight away.

Obviously not foolproof and would still definitely get a real DNA test done (the child deserves to know who its real father is) but could be a general indicator.

amus

pollypenny wrote: »

True story;

a teacher who'd been at my school for years greeted a new Y7 pupil with;
' John Jones' boy!'

The response - 'No, sir! He lives next door!'

Strong genes will out.

:eek::eek::eek: :rotfl: