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Yeyaaasssss!
Been on about this for ages.
Watch out for the following individuals garnering simplistic battery monkey mindless applause for hollow platitudes such as 'Bankers = fatcats' (even though somehow these individuals are fat cat tax dogers themselves);
+ Will Self
+Tony Robinson
+ Billy Bragg (massive Tax dodger fat cat)
+ Shirley Williams (huge wealth)
+ Lenny Henry (worth £50m)
+ Ben Elton - one of the biggest fat cats of all
+ Will Hutton - uses a Ltd co for all his speaking revenue etc
+ Janet St Porter
+ Tony Benn - huge state in Essex - stopped rambles walking round the premiter my the sea - main home in Holland park
Don't be a mug by falling for these crowd pleasers - always have in your mind the image of thier meet with thier Accoutant
Whether you agree with their message it is nice to see indiviuals that aren't constantly fawning and sucking up to a party line.
There are just a s many on the other side of the fence too.
So often they touch a nerve even if they themselves don't have an answer.
Lenny and Ben may be worth millions but the populace "voted" for them by paying for their works, they didn't have to.
Tax manipulation has and always will go on."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
why does that mean every benefit claimant should be targeted? how would reducing that help that woman? perhaps people with kids get too much i dont know but not everyone has kids. sweeping judgements on all claimants and sweeping cuts that hit every claimant are unfair.A couple with 2 kids will get £258 a week and their rent and council tax paid I would that is more than enough to live on .0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »I'm not sure what your stance is either, is it:
1) people who go to work and earn less than they could receive if they sat on their rear and claimed benefits have no right to moan that the system is screwed
2) people who work and earn less than they could receive if they sat on their rear and claimed benefits should quit their job and claims benefits
3) both of the above
regarding point 1, of course they have a right to be upset about it. what they get wrong is who to blame and what the answer is. if they dont get paid enough their issue is with their employer not benefit claimants. cutting benefits wont increase their wages.
regarding point 2, i wouldnt blame someone for not applying for the jobs that make them worse off. i am not saying they should quit. they would get sanctioned if they did that.0 -
while these people may well be hypocritical whats the alternative? no-one at all says anything decent? i am not saying i agree with everything the above people say.Yeyaaasssss!
Been on about this for ages.
Watch out for the following individuals garnering simplistic battery monkey mindless applause for hollow platitudes such as 'Bankers = fatcats' (even though somehow these individuals are fat cat tax dogers themselves);
+ Will Self
+Tony Robinson
+ Billy Bragg (massive Tax dodger fat cat)
+ Shirley Williams (huge wealth)
+ Lenny Henry (worth £50m)
+ Ben Elton - one of the biggest fat cats of all
+ Will Hutton - uses a Ltd co for all his speaking revenue etc
+ Janet St Porter
+ Tony Benn - huge state in Essex - stopped rambles walking round the premiter my the sea - main home in Holland park
Don't be a mug by falling for these crowd pleasers - always have in your mind the image of thier meet with thier Accoutant0 -
donnajunkie wrote: »why does that mean every benefit claimant should be targeted? how would reducing that help that woman? perhaps people with kids get too much i dont know but not everyone has kids. sweeping judgements on all claimants and sweeping cuts that hit every claimant are unfair.
I’m not saying all benefits should be cut just that there is scope for reducing some of them. The fact remains that a couple with 2 kids get £258 a week and for every extra kid they will get another £60 odd a week. I believe that is more than enough to live on and if benefits are a safety net it there is scope for reducing it and if you are not working you should not expect the same standard of living as people who do.
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the problem is it is not done fairly. most benefit cuts hit people who cant afford to lose money. when people talk about benefits being too high they do it in a general way which ultimately attacks all claimants.I’m not saying all benefits should be cut just that there is scope for reducing some of them. The fact remains that a couple with 2 kids get £258 a week and for every extra kid they will get another £60 odd a week. I believe that is more than enough to live on and if benefits are a safety net it there is scope for reducing it and if you are not working you should not expect the same standard of living as people who do.
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donnajunkie wrote: »the problem is it is not done fairly. most benefit cuts hit people who cant afford to lose money. when people talk about benefits being too high they do it in a general way which ultimately attacks all claimants.
The problem is the system is not working and something has to be done. You can’t have a system where someone claiming benefits gets more than someone earning above the average wage.0 -
donnajunkie wrote: »the problem is it is not done fairly. most benefit cuts hit people who cant afford to lose money. when people talk about benefits being too high they do it in a general way which ultimately attacks all claimants.
I guess they will just have to cancel those mobile phone contracts and/or Sky/VirginMedia subscriptions.0 -
Yeyaaasssss!
Been on about this for ages.
Watch out for the following individuals garnering simplistic battery monkey mindless applause for hollow platitudes such as 'Bankers = fatcats' (even though somehow these individuals are fat cat tax dogers themselves);
+ Will Self
+Tony Robinson
+ Billy Bragg (massive Tax dodger fat cat)
+ Shirley Williams (huge wealth)
+ Lenny Henry (worth £50m)
+ Ben Elton - one of the biggest fat cats of all
+ Will Hutton - uses a Ltd co for all his speaking revenue etc
+ Janet St Porter
+ Tony Benn - huge state in Essex - stopped rambles walking round the premiter my the sea - main home in Holland park
Don't be a mug by falling for these crowd pleasers - always have in your mind the image of thier meet with thier Accoutant
Most of these sort of people are put on there by the left-liberal tosspots who run the BBC as a way of saying : "Look, it's not just politicians who hold these views, but also regular people whom you like, admire, and can relate to." I hate all these pseudo-socialist, hypocritical, wealthy, so-called celebrities who come out with all this "edgy" anti-establishment claptrap. It bears no relation to how they actually live their lives, and is just for the purpose of trying to ingratiate themselves with a potential "yoof" audience.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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Will Self - The only other QT panelist I hate as much is David Starkey.0
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