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donnajunkie

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Or work very hard to earn their living.

its not fair to work hard all day and then only get benefits for your efforts either but many have to.

Thrugelmir

donnajunkie wrote: »

her real issue is she does not get paid enough.

Many people say that.

I supervise 3 times as many people as I did 15 years ago. Yet I'm now paid 70% of my salary back then, and that's without adjusting for inflation.

However I don't complain. As I work for a non profit organisation. So the return comes from job satisfaction. Rather than making money for other people.

donnajunkie

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Many people say that.

I supervise 3 times as many people as I did 15 years ago. Yet I'm now paid 70% of my salary back then, and that's without adjusting for inflation.

However I don't complain. As I work for a non profit organisation. So the return comes from job satisfaction. Rather than making money for other people.

i'm not sure what your stance is here. are you saying she shouldnt be complaining about her situation or are you backing me up and think that her real issue is her low income?

Thrugelmir

donnajunkie wrote: »

i'm not sure what your stance is here. are you saying she shouldnt be complaining about her situation or are you backing me up and think that her real issue is her low income?

Everybody's situation is different. So difficult to comment. I know people that live on relatively little. They are happy to do so. As in a sense they've opted out of the consumer world we now inhabit.

donnajunkie

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Everybody's situation is different. So difficult to comment. I know people that live on relatively little. They are happy to do so. As in a sense they've opted out of the consumer world we now inhabit.

well i just think its wrong if you someone finds themselves in a low paid job to take it out on the unemployed. in the majority of cases the unemployed dont get too much.

ukcarper

donnajunkie wrote: »

well i just think its wrong if you someone finds themselves in a low paid job to take it out on the unemployed. in the majority of cases the unemployed dont get too much.

A couple with 2 kids will get £258 a week and their rent and council tax paid I would that is more than enough to live on .

chewmylegoff

donnajunkie wrote: »

i'm not sure what your stance is here. are you saying she shouldnt be complaining about her situation or are you backing me up and think that her real issue is her low income?

I'm not sure what your stance is either, is it:

1) people who go to work and earn less than they could receive if they sat on their rear and claimed benefits have no right to moan that the system is screwed

2) people who work and earn less than they could receive if they sat on their rear and claimed benefits should quit their job and claims benefits

3) both of the above

StevieJ

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I'm not sure what your stance is either, is it:

1) people who go to work and earn less than they could receive if they sat on their rear and claimed benefits have no right to moan that the system is screwed

2) people who work and earn less than they could receive if they sat on their rear and claimed benefits should quit their job and claims benefits

3) both of the above

I thought people who earned less than benefits could claim WTC?

Conrad

chewmylegoff wrote: »

baldrick was just playing the crowd using pantomime villians. i'm sure he enjoyed it but it doesn't really add much to just say "oil companies BOOOO HISSSS" a lot.

Yeyaaasssss!

Been on about this for ages.
Watch out for the following individuals garnering simplistic battery monkey mindless applause for hollow platitudes such as 'Bankers = fatcats' (even though somehow these individuals are fat cat tax dogers themselves);


+ Will Self
+Tony Robinson
+ Billy Bragg (massive Tax dodger fat cat)
+ Shirley Williams (huge wealth)
+ Lenny Henry (worth £50m)
+ Ben Elton - one of the biggest fat cats of all
+ Will Hutton - uses a Ltd co for all his speaking revenue etc

+ Janet St Porter
+ Tony Benn - huge state in Essex - stopped rambles walking round the premiter my the sea - main home in Holland park


Don't be a mug by falling for these crowd pleasers - always have in your mind the image of thier meet with thier Accoutant

grizzly1911

Conrad wrote: »

Yeyaaasssss!

Been on about this for ages.
Watch out for the following individuals garnering simplistic battery monkey mindless applause for hollow platitudes such as 'Bankers = fatcats' (even though somehow these individuals are fat cat tax dogers themselves);


+ Will Self
+Tony Robinson
+ Billy Bragg (massive Tax dodger fat cat)
+ Shirley Williams (huge wealth)
+ Lenny Henry (worth £50m)
+ Ben Elton - one of the biggest fat cats of all
+ Will Hutton - uses a Ltd co for all his speaking revenue etc

+ Janet St Porter
+ Tony Benn - huge state in Essex - stopped rambles walking round the premiter my the sea - main home in Holland park


Don't be a mug by falling for these crowd pleasers - always have in your mind the image of thier meet with thier Accoutant

Whether you agree with their message it is nice to see indiviuals that aren't constantly fawning and sucking up to a party line.

There are just a s many on the other side of the fence too.

So often they touch a nerve even if they themselves don't have an answer.

Lenny and Ben may be worth millions but the populace "voted" for them by paying for their works, they didn't have to.