Car ownership info from DVLA

Pussfella

If I tried to obtain ownership details of a vehicle for any reason, I'm sure DVLA wouldn't give them to me. (data protection?) So how do owners of private car parks, supermarkets for example, manage to get the same info?

peter_the_piper

DVLA would release details to you on payment of £2.50 and you giving them sufficient reason to want them. The same applies to PPC's.

[Deleted User]

FYI. DVLA don't have ownership details.

They only have registered keeper details.

Stephen_Leak

Would it blow the DVLA's "reasonable cause" argument out of the water if they gave someone (ie. not a genuine BPA/AOS PPC) managed to get their own car's (thefore avoiding any DP Act comeback) details?

mikey72

Stephen_Leak wrote: »

Would it blow the DVLA's "reasonable cause" argument out of the water if they gave someone (ie. not a genuine BPA/AOS PPC) managed to get their own car's (thefore avoiding any DP Act comeback) details?

No, anyone can, down to private individuals. All you need for reasonable cause is a photo of the car parked on your land.

Stephen_Leak

I was thinking more of a request from "S L Parking Services" ...

mikey72

Go for it.
link for you http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_065259.pdf

HO87

mikey72 wrote: »

No, anyone can, down to private individuals. All you need for reasonable cause is a photo of the car parked on your land.

Whether you have a photograph or not of a vehicle on your land you still need to demonstrate "reasonable cause". I have made several applications over the years using V888 and had two of them returned for further details even though they had had quite detailed accounts of the incidents involved at first sitting.

The fact remains that the scrutiny applied by DVLA staff to individual applications via V888's is considerably greater than that applied to such applications made by PPC's using the EDI "electronic link" where, truth be told, there is not scrutiny whatsoever. Expediency (because that is what appears to lie behind the provision of the EDI system to PPC's. At over 2,000 checks per day, 365 days a year the DVLA couldn't cope with the numbers) means that an assumption is made that because the PPC is a member of the BPA Approved Operator Scheme that they must therefore have "reasonable cause".

As we now know - post VCS v HMRC - there is extreme doubt that PPC's could demonstrate that they have sufficient interest in the land they purport to enforce parking regulations upon to offer contracts to park in the first place. No contract - no breach; no breach - no "reasonable cause". This is the nub of the issue we await clarification on from the DVLA.

mikey72

HO87 wrote: »

Whether you have a photograph or not of a vehicle on your land you still need to demonstrate "reasonable cause". I have made several applications over the years using V888 and had two of them returned for further details even though they had had quite detailed accounts of the incidents involved at first sitting.

The fact remains that the scrutiny applied by DVLA staff to individual applications via V888's is considerably greater than that applied to such applications made by PPC's using the EDI "electronic link" where, truth be told, there is not scrutiny whatsoever. Expediency (because that is what appears to lie behind the provision of the EDI system to PPC's. At over 2,000 checks per day, 365 days a year the DVLA couldn't cope with the numbers) means that an assumption is made that because the PPC is a member of the BPA Approved Operator Scheme that they must therefore have "reasonable cause".

As we now know - post VCS v HMRC - there is extreme doubt that PPC's could demonstrate that they have sufficient interest in the land they purport to enforce parking regulations upon to offer contracts to park in the first place. No contract - no breach; no breach - no "reasonable cause". This is the nub of the issue we await clarification on from the DVLA.

So, detailed accounts, with or without a picture of the car parked on your land? Do you have a template letter to advise what they like to see written? I take it we can assume you got all the details of all the cars eventually?