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Charge on Property

Hello.

I am asking this question on behalf of a friend.

Someone owes him money and my friend has put a charge on the property. Now this person is willing to sell the property to my friend.

Can my friend go to the bank and say I want a loan but the equity required is already in the property. Would it be possible to obtain a mortgage this way?
Credit Card Debts: £11,605.95/£16,240.53 - 71% paid off.

£4,634.61 credit card debt remaining. Aim for credit card debt free before
[STRIKE]October 2011[/STRIKE] December 2012. In debt since 2004.

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  • cococoladebt
    cococoladebt Posts: 221 Forumite
    Just bumping this thread up.
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    I imagine it will involve persuading the lender, but I see no objection.

    Presumable the property is worth, let's say, £150K.
    And owner owes your friend, say, £50K
    And your friend will apply for a mortgage of £100K

    The owner will sell the property for £150K, but on Completion your friend will give the owner's solicitor the £100K (received from the mortgage lender).
    The Charge will then be removed from the property.

    It would not be a 'standard' transaction, but there is no reason the solicitors involved (and lender) could not sort this out.

    edit: the above assumes the current owner does not also have a mortgage on the property. If he does, the £100K he receives would also have to be sufficient to pay off his mortgage.
  • Thanks that seems quite reasonable. I will pass this on.
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    £4,634.61 credit card debt remaining. Aim for credit card debt free before
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  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,335 Forumite
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    As a charge over the property does not constitute an equity share, the answer to this question is no, IMHO.

    That would make the transaction a vendor gifted deposit, rather than a simple equity purchase and would leave no lenders willing to lend.

    If there was a family relationship between the parties, a purchase at undervalue might have been a solution, but there's no indication this is the case.

    If there is no mortgage on the property, the charge holder could become a part-owner, making the purchase of the other party's equity fairly straightforward. This becomes more difficult if there's a mortgage already.
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    kingstreet wrote: »
    .... That would make the transaction a vendor gifted deposit, rather than a simple equity purchase and would leave no lenders willing to lend.
    The 'gift' would be the buyer's own money on this analysis. I don't see this as a vendor gifted deposit. The big difficulty as we see is getting the professionals to analyse it correctly.
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  • G_M
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    kingstreet wrote: »
    That would make the transaction a vendor gifted deposit, rather than a simple equity purchase and would leave no lenders willing to lend.

    .
    Not sure I understand.

    The seller owes the buyer £50K (using my example figures above). So the £50K is the buyer's money - not a 'gift'.

    Provided the sale price was a true market value (as valued of course by the mortgage lender's surveyor) there is no 'gift' involved.

    Just some tricky legal/financial footwork getting the right amount to the right person on Completion, and the Charge removed. Though even the Charge isn't an issue, since it is in the buyer's name so he can remove it at his leisure at any time.

    But I may be wrong of course....
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,335 Forumite
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    OP please let us know what happens with this. I'm curious about the outcome.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • cococoladebt
    cococoladebt Posts: 221 Forumite
    No movement on this front. I will let you know if something happens.
    Credit Card Debts: £11,605.95/£16,240.53 - 71% paid off.

    £4,634.61 credit card debt remaining. Aim for credit card debt free before
    [STRIKE]October 2011[/STRIKE] December 2012. In debt since 2004.
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