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  • Anthorn
    Anthorn Posts: 4,362 Forumite
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    edited 25 June 2012 at 2:28PM
    What's a 'fringe of legailty' - you either comply with the law or not - if not then I would expect the full force of the law to be applied.
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    You answered the question yourself:
    It only becomes an issue if the company concerned do not cease collection activity after having been advised by the debtor that they will not pay.

    I assume from your post that you have never had dealings with a debt collection company in relation to statute barred debt. But the bottom line is they take advantage of debtors who don't know their rights. Debt collection companies should be obliged to check whether a debt is enforceable and if it isn't they should be obliged to inform the debtor of their rights. But sadly that isn't the case. (pun intended).
  • Hanky_Panky
    Hanky_Panky Posts: 767 Forumite
    Anthorn wrote: »
    You answered the question yourself:



    I assume from your post that you have never had dealings with a debt collection company in relation to statute barred debt. But the bottom line is they take advantage of debtors who don't know their rights. Debt collection companies should be obliged to check whether a debt is enforceable and if it isn't they should be obliged to inform the debtor of their rights. But sadly that isn't the case. (pun intended).

    I don't agree and frankly neither does the law.

    I mentioned 'fringe of legality' as it was a term you used - you seem to imply that it was 'barely legal' and I pointed out it was either legal or not.

    I have had plently of experience dealing with DCA's when helping and advising people who are in the financial mire. You state they take advantage of people and I don't see how. They ask people to pay their debt back - it is still owed regardless of whether it is enforcable or not.
  • Anthorn
    Anthorn Posts: 4,362 Forumite
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    Hanky Panky, sorry but I don't feed trolls.
  • Hanky_Panky
    Hanky_Panky Posts: 767 Forumite
    love it - dare to disagree, point out the flaws in an argument and you are immediately branded a troll. :rotfl:
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    hynish wrote: »
    Thank you Bankhater for at least trying to understand the predicament I'm in.

    Datostar and chanz4 - do you not think you should have done likewise? I'd love to be able to pay my way again.

    I don't know as always pay my bills, so you will have to tell me
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • k12479
    k12479 Posts: 801 Forumite
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    Anthorn wrote: »
    Debt collection companies should be obliged to check whether a debt is enforceable and if it isn't they should be obliged to inform the debtor of their rights.
    And a debtor should be obliged to pay their debts.
  • Anthorn
    Anthorn Posts: 4,362 Forumite
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    k12479 wrote: »
    And a debtor should be obliged to pay their debts.

    Let's be clear on this: We are considering a creditor who has not taken any action at all to recover a debt for six years save for possibly passing the account to a debt collection agency. They may sell the debt and the buyer similarly doesn't do anything to recover the debt. Many creditors don't even live up to their legal obligation in keeping the debtor informed about the debt: Debtor clients of Lowell Financial, for example, will be well aquainted with their annual statement.

    In my view such companies deserve to lose out on debts they do not by all accounts want to recover.
  • vax2002
    vax2002 Posts: 7,187 Forumite
    Lenders insure against default, hence why it is in their best interests to do nothing for six years.
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  • rizla_king
    rizla_king Posts: 2,895 Forumite
    k12479 wrote: »
    And a debtor should be obliged to pay their debts.

    When a debt collector has bought a debt, and you pay the debt collector £100, how much of that goes to the original creditor that you borrowed from?

    And how much of the next £100?
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