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  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,503 Forumite
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    I think you get the childcare paid for on top of your daily allowance, don't you?
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  • Torry_Quine
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    bikeman wrote: »
    I'd love to do it but its during the school hols and £64 a day barely covers childcare for my 2 young children (£56 a day) let alone my loss of earnings. more seriously I don't know how long its likely to last so I can't even book the childcare without risk of being seriously out of pocket.

    btw i work from home so I look after them during hols and after school termtime but should I really have to explain this.

    for those that think jury service is profitable think again - £64 a day is for out of pocket expenses which are paid out of net salary. to equate it to £33k pa gross is nonsence. earnings also have to be proven so I'm likely to get fkall based upon my last yrs accounts.

    enough of the lectures please.

    I certainly wasn't lecturing. For a start child-care costs are in addition to the daily allowance. I don't know how much the daily allowance is at the moment but I do know that everyone I know who served on a jury was paid less than the allowance at the time. None of them were particularly low paid. I do think serving on a jury is an important thing that we do.
    Savvy_Sue wrote: »
    I think you get the childcare paid for on top of your daily allowance, don't you?

    That's right.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    I don't know how much the daily allowance is at the moment but I do know that everyone I know who served on a jury was paid less than the allowance at the time. None of them were particularly low paid.
    But I know when my colleague did it - within the last couple of years - the allowance was LESS than their regular salary. We topped it up, although we weren't obliged to do so. I'd think their hourly rate would be a bit less than twice minimum wage - how does the allowance compare to NMW?
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  • getzls
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    For self employed people jury service is a pain in the A***. An easy way to get out of it is to say that you are illiterate and an alcoholic.
    O.K. Let the self employed and the Captains of industry off Jury service and fill the Juries with the low paid and unemployed. Anytime there is a odd verdict from a Jury the same people will complain about the Juries being filled with the low paid and the unemployed.
  • colino
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    Hate to break it to you getzls, but prove it to yourself and pop in to the nearest courts public gallery and you will find that juries ARE largely populated by the low-paid and unemployed. That also may be a reason why jury trials do come out with crazy verdicts.
  • bikeman
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    Savvy_Sue and Torry Quine

    The allowance is a maximum to cover all loss of earnings and other expenses. Only travel and subsistence are separate. Childcare is included with loss of earnings and subject to the maximum limit collectively.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJusticeAndTheLaw/Juryservice/DG_197055

    states;

    You can claim for more than one type of loss – as long as the total amount is no more than the maximum daily allowance. For example, if you’re claiming loss of earnings and child care, the total of both must not exceed the maximum daily allowance.

    Why do you both state something as fact that you haven't bothered to check?
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    SailorSam wrote: »
    I was on Jury duty last year and one of the trials i was on was a young 'scally' girl. As soon as we got in the Jury room one old man said she was obviously guilty and sat reading his paper refusing to join in the discussions.
    Outrageous. I think I would have called it in to the ushers.
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  • getzls
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    colino wrote: »
    Hate to break it to you getzls, but prove it to yourself and pop in to the nearest courts public gallery and you will find that juries ARE largely populated by the low-paid and unemployed. That also may be a reason why jury trials do come out with crazy verdicts.
    I have been on a Jury, lost money too. If the Juries are full of unemployed is it because of the too Posh to Push folks getting out of Jury Service?
  • LadyMissA
    LadyMissA Posts: 3,263 Forumite
    getzls wrote: »
    I have been on a Jury, lost money too. If the Juries are full of unemployed is it because of the too Posh to Push folks getting out of Jury Service?
    If you are currently looking for a job you can asked to be excused. It for one means you are not available for work and therefore could lose out on a job and of course you can't go to interviews etc so you can ask to be excused.
  • Torry_Quine
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    bikeman wrote: »
    Savvy_Sue and Torry Quine

    The allowance is a maximum to cover all loss of earnings and other expenses. Only travel and subsistence are separate. Childcare is included with loss of earnings and subject to the maximum limit collectively.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJusticeAndTheLaw/Juryservice/DG_197055

    states;

    You can claim for more than one type of loss – as long as the total amount is no more than the maximum daily allowance. For example, if you’re claiming loss of earnings and child care, the total of both must not exceed the maximum daily allowance.

    Why do you both state something as fact that you haven't bothered to check?

    No mention here that child care isn't seperate from loss of earnings. So I was sure of my facts, I know people who got their child care on top.


    http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/courtusers/jurors/docs/jurorsallowances.pdf
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