7 million people face money woes(7 working million)

kabayiri

suburbanwifey wrote: »

And don't forget the Govt. as it was back then encouraged debt to get better lives, more treats, stuff. People buying stuff meant shop tills were busy, the Govt. raked in taxes. As house prices rose and those that couldn't afford to buy bought, they got more taxes on each sale or purchase. As more cars were bought, more taxes, as more petrol consumed, more taxes. The Govt. like us spending, they encourage it, its how they make their living. This country would collapse if we all just survived on the basics and went on holiday once a year in a cheap tent. Hotels would close, pubs would close, shops would close (its happening already!) so does the Govt. really want us all going back to basics? It may be better for our health and our purses if we did so but our country would collapse. My iPhone contributes to the economy.

Chart the collapse in society?

There's an App for that


Perhaps we need a consumer repentance day, where thousands and thousands of people can gather at cliff tops and simultaneously throw their iphones and ipads into the sea.

paulmapp8306

suburbanwifey wrote: »

I don't work to sustain myself, the welfare state would do that for me if I didn't QUOTE]

See - that right there is the problem. The Welfare state is there to support you WHEN YOU CANT - its not there to provide the basics for you can work for EXTRA. If everyone had that attitude there wouldnt be a welfare state because no-one would be working to fund it.

Im not saying we shouldt strive for more - of course we should, but we should expect less.

StevieJ

paulmapp8306 wrote: »

The Wimpy was after the 60s wasnt it? And the Tea houses were for the upper classes (they have always had access). im talking about the masses.

Ive no doubt the pubs did see more custom - but it wasnt (in general) every night - and if it was it was ONE pint - maybe TWO at a puch - not the 20 that seems to be consumed every Fri/Say night in this day and age. It was also uncommon for women to go to the pub as well - it was a male "after work wind-down" if anything.

The first Wimpy was in 1954, plus there were many other types of cafes e.g. coffee houses. Pubs were busy all week, manual workers would pop in for one and pop out at 11 :eek: Why do you think licensing hours were tightened during WW1?

The origin of the lock-in in Britain was a reaction to changes in the licensing laws in England and Wales in 1915, which curtailed opening hours to stop factory workers from turning up drunk and harming the war effort.

Mrs_Bones

paulmapp8306 wrote: »

The Wimpy was after the 60s wasnt it? And the Tea houses were for the upper classes (they have always had access). im talking about the masses.

Ive no doubt the pubs did see more custom - but it wasnt (in general) every night - and if it was it was ONE pint - maybe TWO at a puch - not the 20 that seems to be consumed every Fri/Say night in this day and age. It was also uncommon for women to go to the pub as well - it was a male "after work wind-down" if anything.

Wimpy bars were around in the 1950's along with milk bars. I've got fond memories of our local milk bar, now a Chinese takeaway. The young use to congregate there. It was the only place local that had a jukebox and tall stools at bar like tables, ahh memories. The tea house were not just for the upper classes either, though not exactly working class places.

Women did use to go to the local pubs, most pubs use to have at least 2 rooms, one for the working men where they could go in their mucky clothes if they'd a mind to pop in after work and another room the snug, where the women mainly went. There was also the fish and chippy which was used way more than every couple of months, weekly at least. Apart from the local pubs their were then bentincks run by the pits, apart from being bars they ran various clubs and entertainment through out the week for members.

Yes there was hand me down clothes and people had money worries just like now, but to say that everyone just sat at home every night and didn't do anything is wrong. The young today are not so different either. We still wanted the latest thing that was fashionable. Then it could have been an LP now it's probably something like a phone. People still had fun, it wasn't all work and being miserable.

The only main difference between then and now is credit, it just wasn't readily available then so people made do with what they had but everyone was the same so we didn't feel hard done by and it didn't stop us enjoying life. There is more to life than work.

chewmylegoff

paulmapp8306 wrote: »

Err - to survive. That is what there is to life. We are the only animals on thios planet that have luxuries. OK thats going a little far BUT you work to support you and your NEEDS. There is no right to luxuries just because you work full time. If you DO have money left after essentials fine - spend it on what you like BUT expecting some of lifes luxuries just because you work 37.5 hours a week - give me a break.

that's true, but i also haven't seen many rabbits doing a 40 hour working week in an office / factory / warehouse. they just eat grass. if they could be bothered to go to work, maybe they could afford an xbox too?

Carl31

A quote i saw the other day:

'Those that moan about todays generation, forget who raised them'

paulmapp8306

chewmylegoff wrote: »

that's true, but i also haven't seen many rabbits doing a 40 hour working week in an office / factory / warehouse. they just eat grass. if they could be bothered to go to work, maybe they could afford an xbox too?

Indeed - but by the same token a Rabbit is happy to eat what he finds lying around and live where he makes himeslf. If we were happy to do the same we wouldnt need to work either.

paulmapp8306

Carl31 wrote: »

A quote i saw the other day:

'Those that moan about todays generation, forget who raised them'

I dont even think its a generational thing as such - though to an extent.

I know people of 20 who have realistic expectations - and others at 40 who expect too much.

wotsthat

paulmapp8306 wrote: »

Indeed - but by the same token a Rabbit is happy to eat what he finds lying around and live where he makes himeslf. If we were happy to do the same we wouldnt need to work either.

Rabbits don't have iphones - how can they be happy?

ukcarper

wotsthat wrote: »

Rabbits don't have iphones - how can they be happy?

They prefer blackberries