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MIG taken out now being chased for 'losses'

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  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    MIG's were a rip-off (are they still required in some circumstances even now?) - the mortage lender would not lend money to the borrower unless they paid the MIG premium, but the MIG only protects the lender, not the borrower from any short-fall if the house is re-possessed and sold for less then the oustanding mortgage debt. Then the borrowwer has a liability to the insurance company to re-pay the shortfall - it's a double whammy.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • Wh05apk
    Wh05apk Posts: 2,938 Forumite
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    MIG's were a rip-off (are they still required in some circumstances even now?) - the mortage lender would not lend money to the borrower unless they paid the MIG premium, but the MIG only protects the lender, not the borrower from any short-fall if the house is re-possessed and sold for less then the oustanding mortgage debt. Then the borrowwer has a liability to the insurance company to re-pay the shortfall - it's a double whammy.

    MIGs are a fact of life, it's built into the deal cost, so if you don't like it find another lender, if you can't find another lender, pay it or continue to live with mummy & daddy!

    Few lenders charge a MIG fee now (directly)
    I am a mortgage adviser.
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Joe_Bloggs wrote: »
    Let the lender pay the premium then.
    J_B.

    No lenders haggle over thier products and contractual details.

    OP - your partner can just say he's about to leave on a 3 year European motorcycle trip / to live in Israel on a farm etc, but is happy to offer a lower amount in good faith and settle now.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    MIG's were a rip-off (are they still required in some circumstances even now?) - the mortage lender would not lend money to the borrower unless they paid the MIG premium, but the MIG only protects the lender, not the borrower from any short-fall if the house is re-possessed and sold for less then the oustanding mortgage debt. Then the borrowwer has a liability to the insurance company to re-pay the shortfall - it's a double whammy.

    And the alternative is higher interest rates, takes your pick:beer:
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Then the borrowwer has a liability to the insurance company to re-pay the shortfall - it's a double whammy.

    Without this claw back. MIG's would be totally exposed to fraud (i.e. the hiding of assets).
  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    MIG's were a rip-off (are they still required in some circumstances even now?) - the mortage lender would not lend money to the borrower unless they paid the MIG premium, but the MIG only protects the lender, not the borrower from any short-fall if the house is re-possessed and sold for less then the oustanding mortgage debt. Then the borrowwer has a liability to the insurance company to re-pay the shortfall - it's a double whammy.
    Why should the borrower benefit from failing to make their mortgage payments?
  • emmdee57
    emmdee57 Posts: 37 Forumite
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    Guys, thanks for your responses. Judging by your responses and thinking about it, it appears that MIGs are a rip off and it looks like I have been sold something that does not protect my partner at all, just the lender. I am totally peeved as that MIG cost me over £3500, money that I could have placed in my own pocket. This is something that needs to be looked at by the same people that declared Payment Protection Insurance was a scam.
  • Wh05apk
    Wh05apk Posts: 2,938 Forumite
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    MIGS are/were totally transparent, you were aware you were paying for it when you took the mortgage, your choice was either to pay the mig or find another mortgage, which I doubt if you could have done.

    MIGs, are just like arrangement fees/interest rates, you need to look at the whole package, you cannot take a package and pick and chose what fees you pay.
    I am a mortgage adviser.
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,375 Forumite
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    his is something that needs to be looked at by the same people that declared Payment Protection Insurance was a scam.

    Payment protection hasnt been declared a scam. PPI is being set up every day quite fairly and normally. The issue was over the sales techniques by some distribution channels.

    MIG has actually been rumoured to be making a come back. Although personally, I dont see it at this time. MIG wasnt a scam. It was an explicit cost to protect the lender in certain circumstances. When MIGs went away, the costs were moved into the interest rates and other fees and that can end up costing a lot more over the term than paying it explicitly.

    No-one liked paying it but you cannot call it a scam.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Senior_Paper_Monitor
    Senior_Paper_Monitor Posts: 2,918 Forumite
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    edited 22 June 2012 at 12:03PM
    It would appear to me that deveopments since have proved that the lender acted sensibly in insisting that you put such cover in place if they were going to lend !

    The ones who possibly have more of a right to whinge are those who paid it and the mortgage.
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