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Predictions on next boom - how big?

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  • The-Joker
    The-Joker Posts: 718 Forumite
    So this thread should be called when will the bottom of this bear market in UK property be, so the next bull market can start?

    The bottom will not happen until interest rates are back up and all the repossessions have been cleared out.
    The thing about chaos is, it's fair.
  • andy.m_2
    andy.m_2 Posts: 1,521 Forumite
    massive amount of over building in Ireland, great estates are boarded up unsold.
    Yes there has been a massive downnturn in prices but do not confuse boom time effects with supply and demand economics 101.
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  • The-Joker
    The-Joker Posts: 718 Forumite
    andy.m wrote: »
    massive amount of over building in Ireland, great estates are boarded up unsold.
    Yes there has been a massive downnturn in prices but do not confuse boom time effects with supply and demand economics 101.


    Yeah same story all over. Spain and Portugal are in the same boat as Ireland and the others. Half build estates and loads of empty new builds.

    A good indication when you visit a country is how many crains you can see. There is usually a few crains here and there. But if there is a few almost everywhere you look then there is over building going on.

    In London there are crains all over the place. New builds and new blocks of flats going up in huge numbers.

    Q. Could the same happen here, yes very possible.
    The thing about chaos is, it's fair.
  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    andy.m wrote: »
    massive amount of over building in Ireland, great estates are boarded up unsold.
    Yes there has been a massive downnturn in prices but do not confuse boom time effects with supply and demand economics 101.

    Please do not introduce logic into this debate.

    It confuses Graham, brit, and Mystic_Trev.

    A MoneyWeek article predicting the end of the world would be far more useful
  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    The-Joker wrote: »
    In London there are crains all over the place. New builds and new blocks of flats going up in huge numbers.

    Q. Could the same happen here, yes very possible.

    Simply untrue

    We are simply not building enough homes in London - until we do, house prices will continue to rocket within the M25
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    The-Joker wrote: »
    Q. Could the same happen here, yes very possible.

    In order for the UK to have the same oversupply of houses in percentage terms as Ireland does, we'd need to have 4,590,000 empty houses.

    Ireland has ghost estates.

    We'd need to have ghost cities....

    Specifically, on top of our current houses, we'd need to build a number of entirely new and completely empty ghost cities the size of Birmingham, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Sheffield, Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds combined.

    In actual fact, we have just 330,000 empty houses. And almost all of them are in the wrong place for demand, and not available anyway.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Once pension saving becomes mandatory. As it must do. So that people fund their own retirement years. Housing may take a back seat in terms of investment performance.
  • I can't wait to see some booming housing prices, I bought in 2011 for a 2004 price after half a decade of dithering
  • armour
    armour Posts: 311 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Once pension saving becomes mandatory. As it must do. So that people fund their own retirement years. Housing may take a back seat in terms of investment performance.
    Unless residential housing becomes allowable as a pension savings vehicle.-
    BTL is in many peoples pension plans already-why not make it SIPPable?
  • aardvaak
    aardvaak Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    Not for a long,long time yet - lots of lo days left!
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