Guest of residents, and loss of earnings for PPCPC

pie_face_2

As a guest of a resident, parking in the residents parking (but unfortunately with a permit incorrectly filled out by the resident. It was a long drive, I was knackered and in need of a cup of tea).

What exactly would the loss of earnings be for the parking company. Seeing as the permits are issued FOC to the resident, is it sod all?

peter_the_piper

Absolutely.

pie_face_2

Am I also right in thinking that if they did (not likely) try to take me to court. Is it this loss of earning they would be after.

Unless they won, when would there be court costs as well.

Not that I'm considering this likely to happen. But it's the only way they'll have a chance get me to pay!

LincolnshireYokel

Ignore the PPC, they havent a leg to stand on. Its all unenforceable bollox.

give_them_FA

As the PPC does not own or have residential rights to the land, then they cannot take you to court anyway. So their collection method is to try and scare you into paying.

Once you realise that, you can laugh at them.

pie_face_2

Aye, I'll go with that.

I'll give them the 5th posters screen name in fact

Half_way

Everything can be costed out one way or the other.
You could look at it like this:
Permits cost money, someones got to design them , manufacture them, and then theres the admin stuff thats associated with such things.
By not having a permit you have saved the parking company some money in material costs and labour this will probbaly more than cancel out any charges they may claim as losses.

give_them_FA

An inventive argument, though not one I would care to take to court... luckily that will never happen with a PPC.

LincolnshireYokel

Half_way wrote: »

Everything can be costed out one way or the other.
You could look at it like this:
Permits cost money, someones got to design them , manufacture them, and then theres the admin stuff thats associated with such things.
By not having a permit you have saved the parking company some money in material costs and labour this will probbaly more than cancel out any charges they may claim as losses.

You should have worked for NASA when the Space Shuttle exploded. You could then have reasoned about all thge money you just saved on rocket fuel and staff overtime.

Stephen_Leak

Half_way wrote: »

Everything can be costed out one way or the other.
You could look at it like this:
Permits cost money, someones got to design them , manufacture them, and then theres the admin stuff thats associated with such things.
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I believe that a PPC tried this, claiming for staff wages, heating, lighting, etc. and was told by the judge that these are normal everyday running costs, not the "genuine pre-estimate of liquidated losses" you can claim as damages for an alleged breach of contract.

trisontana

Stephen_Leak wrote: »

I believe that a PPC tried this, claiming for staff wages, heating, lighting, etc. and was told by the judge that these are normal everyday running costs, not the "genuine pre-estimate of liquidated losses" you can claim as damages for an alleged breach of contract.

There was a similar county court ruling, this time about a "civil recovery" case. In this instance a store tried to claim nearly a hundred pounds for the one hour the security guard took to deal with two alleged shoplifters. The judge ruled that not only was the claim disproportionate, but the guard was only carrying out his "core duties" which did not entail any extra expense to the store.