Are police no waiting cones legal?

thegirlintheattic

You need to obey the cones. They are there to prevent an obstruction and keep the kids safe. I agree with spiro - you'll soon be getting yellow lines.

neilmcl

OP, was your mate given any notice of the intended parking restrictions, were there any notices put up along the street. I had a similar thing happen to me a few years back when the road I used to park on at work was going to get double yellows. I had parked outside of what I though was the intended area but I came back to find police cones had been placed further down and around my car and I got ticketed. I succesfully appealed on the grounds that I had not been given reasonable notice to the extent of the new restrictions.

cyclonebri1

I was thinking along similar lines, the only sound defence would be if he had parked say overnight, and found he had already been ticketed when he 1st saw the cones.

Is that the case?, otherwise he may as well pay up.

But there is a real issue here with schools and parking, :mad:, I too am affected, not be the yellow lines but by the idiotic mums and dads that think it's ok to park all the way around the bend at the top of our hill even though it has double whites to 50 yds down the hill.
My problem with it is that police turn a blind eye to it at school run times, but if you are the only car there they will stop and bang on the door telling you to shift it, I know:o:o

property.advert

I think it depends upon when and how the cones turned up.

If he parked first and then they put the cones down, it is clearly wrong but if the cones were put down already and he foolishly ignored them and parked, then he only has himself to blame for any fine.

Good caveat on whether the fine was issued by the police or some over zealous council parking bod.

mgdavid

paddedjohn wrote: »

.........My question is, are these cones legally enforcable or are the police acting outside their powers.

lots of posts but can anyone definitively answer the OPs question?

cajef

POLICE ‘NO WAITING‘ SIGNS

The Traffic Management Act 2004 makes provision for any person under the instructions of the police or highway authority to place ‘no waiting’ cones on highway indicating prohibitions or restrictions relating to vehicular traffic in order to prevent congestion or obstruction – power to maintain such a sign for a maximum period of 7 days or less from the time it was placed out. Section 67 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1974 grants this power but only in extraordinary circumstances. Only police officers can deal with drivers/riders who fail to comply with these cones – the offence is failing to conform to a traffic sign and is non-endorsable.

wba31

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

But there is a real issue here with schools and parking, :mad:, I too am affected, not be the yellow lines but by the idiotic mums and dads that think it's ok to park all the way around the bend at the top of our hill even though it has double whites to 50 yds down the hill.
My problem with it is that police turn a blind eye to it at school run times, but if you are the only car there they will stop and bang on the door telling you to shift it, I know:o:o

I used to live opposite a primary school where every morning and night the road down one side would be blockedwith parked cars while parents parked, often over the end of my drive, while dropping kids off and picking them up, it had a dropped kerb and everything! 2 or 3 times a week i would come home from work around 3 and find i couldnt get on the drive, so used to block the road bibbing the horn until the parent who's car is was would come and move it, as they used to congregate on a playground opposite the house.

Ghostrider

Provided it's been left there by a police man then yes it's an offence to ignore it and you can be fined (but no points).

It's been left there for good reason, schools these days are full of lazy mothers and children who seemingly can't walk more than 300 meters to the school gate, thereby requiring the arrival of platoons of 4x4 vehicles that half of them carry one small child, 1 made up mother and a kids lunch box. Blocking residential streets and thinking they own the road (i've had plenty of verbal from mothers in the past thinking they have some right clog the street up).

I'm all for parking restrictions outside schools, kids need to be healthy and making them walk to school would be a good start.

More tickets please!

Notmyrealname

paddedjohn wrote: »

I know he can appeal and he will be but I can't see how there is an offence committed since he has parked in the same place foe years with no probs but now some coppers have deemed it wrong, there are no restrictions anywhere apart from these cones. Do the police need an official order to place them or can they put them where they want and do they carry any weight?

No, the Police do not need an official order to place them.

They carry weight. Park where they are, expect a ticket.

im-lost

you would think the provision for road marking outside a new school would be in place already..

The school didn't just crop up over night..