new oven and hob connection Querry

stephen25uk

I am going to fit a new kitchen in the next few weeks.
we currently have a free standing cooker and are replacing it with a built in oven and ceramic hob,the existing cooker is conected by a 6mm cable to the cooker conection point which in turn is connected to the fuse board and prottected with a 30 amp fuse.
the total KW of the new cooker and hob is 8.3kw,so my question is,is the cable/fuse suitable for connection of the new hob and oven.

Browntoa

think the cables probably ok but possibly needs a higher rated fuse if the hob is to be connected to the same feed ??

wait for a real sparky to comment though

mikey72

No. You need two separate circuits for the two appliances. The hob may be able to connect to the old cooker point, the oven may be able to connect to the ring main, but you need an electrician to look at it. You cannot connect them both to the existing point, and cannot just change the fuse.

stephen25uk

mikey72 wrote: »

No. You need two separate circuits for the two appliances. The hob may be able to connect to the old cooker point, the oven may be able to connect to the ring main, but you need an electrician to look at it. You cannot connect them both to the existing point, and cannot just change the fuse.

hi mate,are you sure about that,are you an electrician?,i am pretty sure you can connect them both to the same point as long as the total load using diversity does't exceed the capability of the cable or fuse....if your not an electrician please dont hand out electrical advice on here,someone could end up hurt....i can do most thing but any electrical work i leave to people that know how to.....hence why i am asking the question on here so as to know what i can expect when my electrician hooks them up

mikey72

stephen25uk wrote: »

hi mate,are you sure about that,are you an electrician?,i am pretty sure you can connect them both to the same point as long as the total load using diversity does't exceed the capability of the cable or fuse....if your not an electrician please dont hand out electrical advice on here,someone could end up hurt....i can do most thing but any electrical work i leave to people that know how to.....hence why i am asking the question on here so as to know what i can expect when my electrician hooks them up

Yes. If you don't like the answer don't ask.

espresso

mikey72 wrote: »

No. You need two separate circuits for the two appliances. The hob may be able to connect to the old cooker point, the oven may be able to connect to the ring main, but you need an electrician to look at it. You cannot connect them both to the existing point, and cannot just change the fuse.

Professional sparks disagree that two separate circuits are required!

see here

There is an appliance outlet plate made for this:

premkit

Need the rating of oven, Man instructions must be followed.
The only way both can be connected, is if they are both around the same KW each, and both require a 30 amp supply.

Smaller single ovens can be pluged into the sockets, your kettle will probably pulling 3 Kw which is plugged in.

stephen25uk

thanks for the replys guys,total kw is 8.3.....2.5kw for the oven and a total of 5.8kw for the hob

Owain_Moneysaver

You can run the two appliances on the same circuit subject to:

- the maximum load taking into account diversity
- the manufacturer's instructions (note that some European ovens must be fused at 16A which is rather awkward as they won't fit on either a UK 32A cooker circuit or a UK 13A socket)
- the cooker control switch is within 2 metres of both appliances. If it not then separate switches will be needed for each appliance.