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Sainsburys eneregy anyone?

squibbs25
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currently with BG (have been for 14 years) websaver 11 tarriff ends today so over the last week i've been looking to see whats available.

The best deal so far is Sainsburys Energy (supplied by BG)

Has anyone used them?

Ive been with BG for years - never had a problem really, never switched before as its always been a minimal saving (too much hassle for £7.00)

Anyway, figures i have come up with are
GAS 15234 Kwh (annually)
ELEC 5094Kwh (annually)

BG recommend the online energy (total cost £1304.04)
or price fix June 2013 (total cost £1327.30)
One also offers a £50 credit in 6 months (forget which one)

But with Sainaburys its totally different
they recommend Price fix June 2013 (£1175.37)
then the Online energy (£1303.93)

I rang BG to see if they will honour the price difference NO WAY :rotfl:

So is it worth the change?
Is Sainsburys any good?
Got to get sorted today either way!
Thanks for reading.
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  • sk240
    sk240 Posts: 474 Forumite
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    I think you may have been mislead somewhere, Salisbury energy is British Gas.Their tarrifs are exactly the same, your best and easiest option sounds like its BG online energy
  • squibbs25
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    sk240 thanks for your relpy, this is why i asked on here beofre i took the leap.
    Now im more confused than before!

    BG customer adviser said they are seperate companies so therefore Sainsburys Energy can charge what they like.

    I went to the Sainsburys Energy page and got a quote form there.


    I have also been on a few comparrision sites but again nothing to major that leaps out.
    Quotes all include dual fuel discounts, i have tried seperately too but not much to be gained.
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    RIP my wonderful stepdad - miss you loads
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  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    edited 31 May 2012 at 12:07PM
    I'm as confused as you are...I've done the comparison sites, talked to individual companies, in the end the differnce between them all seems peanuts and all far too expensive for what are essential services...at present I am back to paying quarterly whilst I try and decide what to do...

    I was advised to consider Sainsbury's by a British Gas staff member at the call centre but again I could not see much to attract. It would appear that what helps reduce prices is signing up online, monthly direct debit with a fixed rate. What is unfair andadds to the cost is the many packages where you pay a standing charges on top of the price of the gas and electric used.

    If that could be got rid of bills might be fairer and possibly we could afford to keep the heating or electric on a little longer...but of course the utilities have to make a profit and if we use less(not sure how much less I can use)that pleases the Government and those who go on about global warming...never mind that many of us especially with health problems or at home a lot need to use both perhaps more often for our well being...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

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  • squibbs25
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    Probably just going to stay with BG too much of a headache with little reward.
    Also phoned our water company to see if i could save money on a meter - apparently not!!!
    Current water bill £380 pa metered approx charge £540:eek:
    adviser said dont change.
    At least thats a potential saving of £140 pa
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    27/05/1997-01/04/2008
    RIP my wonderful stepdad - miss you loads
    :Axxxxxxxxx:A
    our new editions
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  • Popperwell
    Popperwell Posts: 5,088 Forumite
    I can understand your frustration Sqibbs,

    Its terrible trying to sort out electric and gas and with what you say about water(if that continues to increase)or wter meters come in(how people claim they save on a meter I don't get)uness they are reusing water such what is called grey water which could be done anyhow...I see it just as a way for the companies to keep making money for what to me in this day and age is essential to life(heating, water)

    Sadly it's not going to change...

    Too many companies as said earlier still charge standing charges on the meters just as happene where you pay a rental charge for a telephone line. Without a meter or a line they could not supply their product or work out a price for what you use so such charges should be dropped but again it's not going to happen...now that's what a Government could/should be looking at trying to change, removing these charges that are sometimes hidden or added.

    It's the same with the pipes and cables that supply water/gas and power, we know when they repair or upfgrade the system they find a way of adding it into what we pay but again, without the infra structure they would not have any business...
    "A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" ~Thomas Jefferson

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  • Perelandra
    Perelandra Posts: 1,060 Forumite
    NB: In accordance with the rules: I work for British Gas, so please bear this in mind regarding any posts I make in this forum. Any opinions I express are mine own, and do not necessarily represent those of my employer.


    Sainsbury's Energy is part of British Gas, and normally the tariffs between the two brands are pretty similar. However, this is not necessarily the case with the Fixed tariffs, which can (and currently do) show more of a difference.

    Based on your consumption, the JS Price Freeze 2013 tariff will save you about £100 per year versus the BG Online Energy tariff.

    If you're coming to the end of the Websaver 11 deal, this forum has mentioned a £50 incentive for switching to the BG Online Energy tariff. If you have been offered that (and from your post it looks like you have) that £100 will reduce to ~ £50. (plus Nectar points. :). ). Bear in mind the Online Energy tariff is not fixed, though, whereas the JS tariff is.


    One final thought, have you checked about whether you could save by using two different suppliers? Your elec consumption is high, your gas consumption is fairly standard. This might make it cheaper to use two different suppliers, even though you'd lose the DF discount. Just a thought.
  • squibbs25
    squibbs25 Posts: 1,324 Forumite
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    Thank you for all the responses. I ended up choosing the price fix with BG.
    My beloved dog Molly
    27/05/1997-01/04/2008
    RIP my wonderful stepdad - miss you loads
    :Axxxxxxxxx:A
    our new editions
    Senna :male: and Dali :female: both JRT
  • squibbs25
    squibbs25 Posts: 1,324 Forumite
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    When I looked at single rather than duel fuel. There was hardly any difference. It's all so blinking expensive regardless of who u go with.
    My beloved dog Molly
    27/05/1997-01/04/2008
    RIP my wonderful stepdad - miss you loads
    :Axxxxxxxxx:A
    our new editions
    Senna :male: and Dali :female: both JRT
  • Perelandra
    Perelandra Posts: 1,060 Forumite
    squibbs25 wrote: »
    Thank you for all the responses. I ended up choosing the price fix with BG.


    By "Price Fix with BG", do you mean the British Gas branded "Fixed Price June 2013" tariff?

    If so, I didn't realise that you were also looking at that as an option (I thought you were only comparing the JS Price Freeze tariff with the Online Energy Tariff).

    The JS Price Freeze 2013 tariff will be cheaper for you than the British Gas Fixed Price 2013 tariff. I did the "Freeze" in italics in my first post since that's important, so apologies if that didn't stand out enough. Also the JS tariff doesn't have a cancellation fee, whereas the BG product does.

    NB: This post isn't trying to advocate the British Gas products, you've already said you've chosen one of those. I'm just trying to point out where you might be able to save a bit more.


    NB: In accordance with the rules: I work for British Gas, so please bear this in mind regarding any posts I make in this forum. Any opinions I express are mine own, and do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
  • Perelandra
    Perelandra Posts: 1,060 Forumite
    Popperwell wrote: »
    Too many companies as said earlier still charge standing charges on the meters just as happene where you pay a rental charge for a telephone line. Without a meter or a line they could not supply their product or work out a price for what you use so such charges should be dropped but again it's not going to happen...now that's what a Government could/should be looking at trying to change, removing these charges that are sometimes hidden or added.

    Ofgem are actually trying to push Gas/Electric companies to use the "standing charge and single tier" pricing structure as part of the review they're doing for all standard tariffs:


    "all standard tariffs would be structured to consist of a compulsory regional standing charge plus a national unit rate set by suppliers (day / night rates for Economy 7 (E7) tariffs)"

    Source:

    http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Markets/RetMkts/rmr/Documents1/Standardised%20element%20consultation.pdf

    (page 5).

    So I don't think it will be likely that the government would push to remove these!
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