JSA question

dookar

looby75 wrote: »

the JC don't expect you to have childcare while you aren't working, so to say you can't sign on at 3pm because you need to pick your kids up doesn't mean that you won't be available to work at 3pm, as while you are working you will have childcare in place.

What a person would or would not do whilst in work is immaterial. If a person cannot make regular appointments at a certain time and that time is within their pattern of availability it casts a doubt on their availability

looby75

dookar wrote: »

What a person would or would not do whilst in work is immaterial. If a person cannot make regular appointments at a certain time and that time is within their pattern of availability it casts a doubt on their availability

if you have caring responsibilities they have to take that into account. Having young children (under 13) is classed as having caring responsibilities.

dookar

looby75 wrote: »

if you have caring responsibilities they have to take that into account. Having young children (under 13) is classed as having caring responsibilities.

I haven't said otherwise.

looby75

dookar wrote: »

I haven't said otherwise.

but you seem to imply that because currently the OP hasn't got childcare for picking the children up from school her JSA agreement needs to reflect this by saying she's not available for work at this time too, or have I misunderstood your post?

JimmyTheWig

FBaby wrote: »

Are you sure you'd be worse off working? Have you factored all the benefits you could still claim including 70% childcare costs? You might want to be absolutely certain of that claim if that us what you are telling the job centre.

But depending on their OH's income, they might not qualify for this 70% of childcare costs.

In this instance the OP would also lose the Paymentshield payments if they get a job, so I'm not surprised that there are jobs out there that would leave them worse off.

dookar

No, you understand my post perfectly.

There are certain relaxations that can be made for those with caring responsibilities, for example the amount of notice they must be given to attend an interview, let's say that's seven days

They've been given a notification to attend in accordance with regulation 23 and that notification instructs them to attend on a certain cycle, indefinitely.

They cannot be compelled to attend on any day within the first seven days because it has been established that due to their caring responsibilities this would be unreasonable but the expectation would be that, given seven days notice, they would be able to put in place a system that allows them to attend. If they cannot put in place such a system then their availability is in doubt.

You could say that once in employment they will have the finances to put such a system in place that are not currently available to them, but this would be a red herring, given seven days notice of a job interview they would still be unemployed and so would still not have access to the required funds and so their availability is in doubt.

If the OP failed to attend as directed by SoS due to having to collect their child from school, I would expect the decision maker to allow the case and request the job centre to refer an availability doubt.

I maybe worded my original response badly, reading back it does seem absolute. It's perfectly possible a person could demonstrate they are available in these circumstances, but there's a doubt nevertheless.

FBaby

The reality is as it is though, the insurance expect OP to be looking for a job via the Job Centre (ie, not keep on claiming for month until the perfect job shows up) and the rule of JSA is that you have to apply for jobs you are elligible for. End of it. Of course, it doesn't stop OP to look for a much better job whilst getting on with the other one. Who knows, if it is in her field and she does have more experience, something could come up within the same company.

I would be more concerned about OP's health. Starting a new job whilst going through chemo must be tough, I'm surprised you can't claim ESA during this time until your treatment is over. Does the insurance only pay if you are on JSA rather than ESA?

missapril75

bloolagoon wrote: »

due to my niavety and reading of tabloids I beleived they were fair but it appears not.

:T

Try The Guardian. It does actually contain much humour and light reading.

It does have it's tabloid moments when an eyecatching headline isn't really matched by the accompanying item but not in a scandal, shock, horror sort of way. Unless that's just the online version.

bloolagoon

Afternoon All. I have still not received a reply from the Job Centre but won't pay £48 in childcare to attend the interview. If that means my claim is ended so be it.

Regards to my claim, yes payment shield require proof from JC that I attend and seek work. I am seeking work but not minimum wage that doesn't cover childcare and makes me pay £12 a day for the privilige of work. That is inexcusable. As a professional I am unlikely to find work that is available in the JC but that does not mean I am work shy or that I am not seeking work. I/C to being available after 3pm of course I am available and have done so everyweek when working but I find it unnaceptable that I have to pay childcare for my appointment and I do not beleive that this request is unreasonable. Of course if they can add this childcare cost to my claim I'd be more than happy. I am perfectly capable of paying childcare if a job was available but refuse to pay whilst I have the indignity of signing on the two are very different.

I have been reading posts on this advice forum and as per those who experience issues with disability related benefits I will be writing to my MP and local press if they continue to insist I take work that is less than childcare or force me to pay childcare during their appointments.

ditzyat50

bloolagoon wrote: »

Final question is that I did not have a pleasant experience today the young gentleman asked if I had applied for XX job - I replied no and they said I should. The cost of childcare for this job is approximately £12 a day above the wages, he said I have to apply .

Let's face it, he's doing his job of getting the unemployment figures down . But basically you mean nothing to him and he is not interested in your situation or whatever legit reasons you have for not applying for a particular position. I worked 30 years, redundant, signed on, expected to apply for all sorts. Been there got the tee shirt. So you look after you, and smile sweetly and thank the young gentleman for his help and you will certainly apply. I wish you well.