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Gideon goes for Plan U

The pasty tax is stuffed.

And now only 5% on static caravans.

Apparently Osborne listened to the views of Sun readers (according to one of the papers).

At best, not a triumph for the way our budgets are thrown together nowadays.
"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,511 Forumite
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    I really can't see any good in this at all. Is it a grubby kowtowing to Mrdoch to demonstrate that he is still the man because he knows of some skeletons that the Tories would rather not have displayed?
    I think....
  • ChiefGrasscutter
    ChiefGrasscutter Posts: 2,112 Forumite
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    Had a pasty once
    I thought it tasted !!!!!!
    Never been near one since
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    add a fat tax of 100% to pasties instead.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    I think there was a danger of a revolution in Cornwall, where they all live in caravans, work in pasty shops, and vote ConDem. MPs were scared of losing their seats to Cornish Nationalists.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    pqrdef wrote: »
    I think there was a danger of a revolution in Cornwall, where they all live in caravans, work in pasty shops, and vote ConDem. MPs were scared of losing their seats to Cornish Nationalists.

    It's Cornish tin not British tin you know.

    Westminster is taking their tin revenues and refusing to build motorways you know.
  • Stephen_Leak
    Stephen_Leak Posts: 8,762 Forumite
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    edited 29 May 2012 at 10:07AM
    Evidently, the HMRC advice on this was ridiculous. They proposed enforcing this by VAT inspectors testing the temperature of pasties with their fingers.

    It almost makes me wonder if they thought that it was such a bad idea, that they made recommendations that no-one in their right mind would've accepted.

    PS. He's still cutting his rich chums' income tax rate from 50% to 45% next April.
    The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in my life. :)
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    HMRC are still missing out on at least 20/40 billion a year on tax they could collect. Putting their fingers in pasties was an idea that could have only come from a malevolent source. I hope DC is proud of his achievement in this area given the diversion of scarce HMRC resources.

    It is not really a U turn. if they are hot /warm from being baked then there is no VAT. If , a sale is made after subsequent heating in store by store personnel, then VAT is levied. Apparently the voluntary provision of a free microwave facility that is operated by the consumer , once the purchase has been made, can not attract VAT.

    J_B.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Joe_Bloggs wrote: »
    HMRC are still missing out on at least 20/40 billion a year on tax they could collect. Putting their fingers in pasties was an idea that could have only come from a malevolent source. I hope DC is proud of his achievement in this area given the diversion of scarce HMRC resources.

    It is not really a U turn. if they are hot /warm from being baked then there is no VAT. If , a sale is made after subsequent heating in store by store personnel, then VAT is levied. Apparently the voluntary provision of a free microwave facility that is operated by the consumer , once the purchase has been made, can not attract VAT.

    J_B.[/QUOTE

    The VAT on heated food already exists as you say.

    No doubt elf & safety, food safety inspectors would have something to say about the free microwave idea.

    What bugs me is the relatively paltry sums that would be generated in relation to the consumer reaction and in the case of Caravans, the socio/economic cost of, the loss of jobs.

    Never mind on a whim we could double the already ridiculous spend on opening and closing ceremonies at the Olympics.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    If the aim was tax simplification then abolish VAT on heated food. Surely the knee jerk rise to 20% on other items is enough compensation.
    J_B.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    The government is now signalling that the charity tax is also destined for the U-bend.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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