Job Offer - Subject to CRB and references, when should I resign?

Bacardi_queen

Hi

A family member has just been offered a position for a company much closer to home. Fantastic news as she's been looking to move for a while. It was all organised through an agency, and the offer originally came via email from the agent.

She asked me if she was ok to resign on the basis of the email to which I promptly told her no, to wait for a contract before she resigns from her current job.

She now has an email direct from the company itself, stating the salary, hours of work, holiday etc, and asking her for acceptance of the offer. The email says that a formal contract can be given in person and the offer is subject to CRB checks and 2 references.

The new company are desperate for her to start, and she has a month's notice period at her current employer. She doesn't want to be seen to be difficult and making the process longer than she needs to but I don't think she should hand her notice in until she has signed the contract with her new employer. Am I being too cautious? It's only a small practice, they're not a big multinational company with a HR department or anything and I don't want to give her advice which might jeapoardise her new job offer.

aylithuk

Bacardi_queen wrote: »

Hi

A family member has just been offered a position for a company much closer to home. Fantastic news as she's been looking to move for a while. It was all organised through an agency, and the offer originally came via email from the agent.

She asked me if she was ok to resign on the basis of the email to which I promptly told her no, to wait for a contract before she resigns from her current job.

She now has an email direct from the company itself, stating the salary, hours of work, holiday etc, and asking her for acceptance of the offer. The email says that a formal contract can be given in person and the offer is subject to CRB checks and 2 references.

The new company are desperate for her to start, and she has a a month's notice period at her current employer. She doesn't want to be seen to be difficult and making the process longer than she needs to but I don't think she should hand her notice in until she has signed the contract with her new employer. Am I being too cautious? It's only a small practice, they're not a bit multinational company with a HR department or anything and I don't want to give her advice which might jeapoardise her new job offer.

Until the references and CRB check come back ok she should not hand in her notice. As the offer of the job could be withdrawn if they are not happy with either the CRB or the references.

Bacardi_queen

aylithuk wrote: »

Until the references and CRB check come back ok she should not hand in her notice. As the offer of the job could be withdrawn if they are not happy with either the CRB or the references.

Thanks, that was also a concern of mine. I know that CRB checks can take weeks and I would be surprised if the new employer waited for these to come back before she started working. So making the offer "subject to", does this really mean anything? There's nothing to worry about in the report coming back.

Regarding the two references, is she safest to give two previous employers rather than her current one? As she won't want the situation of the new employer contacting her current employer before she's handed her notice in!

Kwaker_Knacker

Took 3 months for the CRB to come back for me when our company said we all had to be done due to potential school work etc. However, some came back after 10 days. Just seemed luck of the draw, some of the other lads were a week after mine. This was about 4 years ago tho, maybe it's quicker now.

Wait until it's through before quitting.

K_K

anamenottaken

Bacardi_queen wrote: »

Thanks, that was also a concern of mine. I know that CRB checks can take weeks and I would be surprised if the new employer waited for these to come back before she started working. So making the offer "subject to", does this really mean anything? There's nothing to worry about in the report coming back.

Regarding the two references, is she safest to give two previous employers rather than her current one? As she won't want the situation of the new employer contacting her current employer before she's handed her notice in!

Making the offer "subject to" is important even if they allowed her to start work. They could still say they weren't acceptable to them however good they might be. She really needs to get an unconditional offer.

Is the job one which actually requires a CRB? What would be the basis for saying it is required - that is, what is it about the job which requires a CRB, not simply the organisation saying that's what it wants? If it doesn't have an HR department, do they actually know that they are right to ask? Have they sent forms to be completed?

References - it is not so much a matter of whether it would be safest to give two previous employers instead of including the current one but whether the potential employer is willing to accept not having a reference from the current employer. How long has she been employed by the current company? What has this potential employer asked for in the way of reference contact details?

princessdon

They can implement Risk Assessments in Lieu of CRB's if needed earlier. So it's either unconditional or they wait this would be my stance.

CRB's are currently 3 weeks, but getting busier ready for the Sept school start.

Torry_Quine

Never ever put in your notice until you have an unconditional offer and start date! I can't emphasise this enough. Surely the company already have the name of your prospective referees which usually includes your current or most recent employer.

gk1980

Couldn't she accept in principle and advise them that she will wait until all checks have been done before formally accepting the offer? I can't see this causing an issue for the firm that she is going to because she is at least advising them what's going on so as not to annoy them?

bluecelticgirl

I know someone who waited over two and a half months for their CRB check - just came through yesterday. The person didn't hand in their notice until it came through and new job did not expect her to - just as well as she would have been out of work for a while! I personally don't know anywhere that would allow you to start without having CRB in place. I also know where I work withdrew a job offer after getting references - not that the person had a bad reference as such but apparently there was something in it that just made them not appear suitable for some aspects of the job.

totallybored

I just got a CRB back and it took 1 week. It is the 3rd one I've had done in half a year though. My first one took a month but that was over Xmas (it was the first ever one I've had) and the 2nd took 2 weeks.

Apparently it's quicker if you've had the same address for 5 years (or someone told me it was).