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No 10 Adviser Attacks 'Socialist' Vince Cable

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  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    hallmark wrote: »
    however are you seriously saying you don't see the correlation between reduction on the laws controlling employers and those same employers hiring more people?
    Contrary to Tory Economics 101, if cabbages are cheaper, I don't buy more cabbages. I already eat as many cabbages as I fancy, and if I eat any more I'll only get sick of them.

    Employers tend to employ as many people as they need.
    hallmark wrote: »
    We're talking simple business facts here
    Yes, I know. And there's evidence that simple is all the right-wing mind can cope with. But real life is rarely simple.
    hallmark wrote: »
    not moral rights & wrongs.
    And money overrides all other considerations?
    hallmark wrote: »
    China in contrast goes to the opposite extreme & has been booming for years on a scale the Eurozone can only dream of.
    And are Chinese factories bloated with superfluous workers?


    It's fair to say, I think, that some industries which became bloated in the days of cheap labour would have been less incentivised to reduce staffing if labour had stayed cheap. Not sure that would have been a desirable outcome though.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • hallmark
    hallmark Posts: 1,472 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    You're arguments are those of a child. Actually on reflection that's probably it isn't it, you're a student. It would explain a lot of the naive nonsense you churn out.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    The_J wrote: »
    Why is it that only lazy and unsuccessful people hate Capitalism?

    Capitalism is Evolution. Survival of the Fittest. If you don't like it, you aren't fit enough.

    Survival of the fittest?

    Or survival of the most powerful?
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    hallmark wrote: »
    If you want a simple demonstration of how this red tape that some posters are keen to dismiss affects things simply compare the economies of the Eurozone & China. The Eurozone is the epitome of an economy mired in red tape & reduced to being horribly uncompetetive with the rest of the world & is going down the toilet because of it. China in contrast goes to the opposite extreme & has been booming for years on a scale the Eurozone can only dream of.

    I thought China was Communist and top ally of North Korea the country that has been bandied about on this thread as the antithesis of Capitalism and somewhere where people should go if they don't agree with dilution of worker rights?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    I thought China was Communist and top ally of North Korea the country that has been bandied about on this thread as the antithesis of Capitalism and somewhere where people should go if they don't agree with dilution of worker rights?

    I believe that China and N Korea were used as examples of how soucialism whilst being all nice and cuddly in theory, tends to be pretty dire for the majority in practice.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    I believe that China and N Korea were used as examples of how soucialism whilst being all nice and cuddly in theory, tends to be pretty dire for the majority in practice.

    I does get confusing, so China communism is the new 19th century Capitalism?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    I does get confusing, so China communism is the new 19th century Capitalism?


    I don't think the system in China could be called communism any more.

    It is more state controlled capitalism. Probably a more unfair system than runaway capitalism.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    pqrdef wrote: »
    Contrary to Tory Economics 101, if cabbages are cheaper, I don't buy more cabbages. I already eat as many cabbages as I fancy, and if I eat any more I'll only get sick of them.



    the economic theory of the price of cabbages does not say or imply that pqrdef will eat more cabbages because the price is reduced.

    the theory says that in general more people overall will consume more cabbages if the price drops, so the overall number of cabbages consumed will rise.

    a very important difference
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    I would be careful about what you say about China. The Bank of China is a UK mortgage lender.
    J_B.
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    I would not eat any cabbage even if I would receive a fee for doing so. So Clapton your room 101 cabbage economic policy is not a vote winner.
    J_B.
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