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Does Super Unleaded contain ethanol?

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  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    Buy a diesel?

    Motor bike?
  • Paradigm
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    As far as I'm aware a Gov directive in 2009 means that all petrol sold in the UK must have 5% "bio content" (read Ethanol for petrol).

    I'll try to find the source but I'm also pretty sure that it is to be increased to a min of 10% soon (EU directive)
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  • mikey72
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    de1amo wrote: »
    i own a 1960s sports car and they recommend BP ultimate at the club because it has no ethanol--i think everything else does from what i gather!(i dont actually live in the uk and have yet to use ethanol petrol in my car!!--it has a metal tank but ethanol does alsorts to gaskets on older cars!

    BP have said that they put 5% ethanol in the Ultimate is the South, other companies are fairly hit and miss, supermarket fuel has ethnol in all blends. That was from 2011 though, so the % has probably increased since then.
  • Paradigm
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    Paradigm wrote: »

    I'll try to find the source

    I haven't found the source yet but did find this response to an email to Shell UK regarding the effect of Ethanol on classic/vintage cars.....
    Guy.

    In answer to your question yes petrol fuel does contain upto 5% ethanol as a
    bio component which undoubtedly cause issues with rubber components and seal
    and things such as fibreglass fuel tanks in aviation. This is a government
    legislative requirement know as the renewable fuels transport obligation
    (RTFO) which was on introduced on 1st April 2009 in the UK, and as
    consequence covers all forecourt fuels of all manufacturers and requires
    their fuels to contain an aggregate of 5% Bio content which is Ethanol in
    petrol fuel and FAME (Fatty Acid Methyl Ester) in Diesel Fuels.
    There will be no liability with the fuel manufacturer as all our petrol
    fuels comply with the BS EN 228 which allows upto 5% ethanol content in
    gasoline fuel. All major manufacturuers have tested fuels upto 10% without
    issue. In terms of vintage cars, there are currently no fuels available
    which meet the exact specification that the engines were originally designed
    for, so it is very much incumbent on the consumer to ascertain that the fuel
    they are using is 'Fit for purpose'

    The Issues you raise are certainly real issues for vintage car owners. The
    fuel we sell will continue to comply with the relevant fuel standards and
    specifications as it did previously. The finished petrol will meet the UK
    gasoline standard EN228, and the maximum amount of ethanol blended into the
    fuel will be in line with this and the RTFO (renewable fuel transport
    obligation - 5% max).

    Regards,
    Rob.P.Holmes
    Lubricants and Fuels Technical Services
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  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,929 Forumite
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    Its a motor bike not a car.


    They have sold diesel motorbikes before. I have seen reviews.

    One of them was the slowest accelerating bike in production at the time though.

    Not so slow now?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRACK-T800CDI-DIESEL-Motorcycle-/150809383097?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item231cf090b9


    Only one bike passed the MSVA though?
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  • sabretoothtigger
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    Ive seen a LPG motorbike, bad range though. I think Jay Leno has a Jet turbine bike that can run natural gas, awful range
  • Paradigm wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware a Gov directive in 2009 means that all petrol sold in the UK must have 5% "bio content" (read Ethanol for petrol).

    I'll try to find the source but I'm also pretty sure that it is to be increased to a min of 10% soon (EU directive)

    Yeah the reason it was 5% as this is safe for non-metal storage tanks.
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