Handling fees - rip off Britain

Incapuppy

Mr_Wang wrote: »

I am bothered about Horton's plain because it is a piece of land, that has no historical relevance.

Anyway....Mind your business!

1. Its a national park with management and conservation expenses that also contains popular tourist attractions such as World's End and Baker's Falls.

Why shouldn't a poor country seek to gain revenue from tourism?

2. Shan't, so there!

Peter999_2

dickydonkin wrote: »

What is annoying is where attractions in other countries charge more for visitors than their own people - a common thing in parts of Asia.

It's not often I agree with Mr Wang, but his post above is spot on.

That happens in this country as well.

tori.k

dickydonkin wrote: »

What is annoying is where attractions in other countries charge more for visitors than their own people - a common thing in parts of Asia.

It's not often I agree with Mr Wang, but his post above is spot on.

But we also do this in GB take the Eden Project it will cost the average visiter person between £19-£23 but the locals annual pass cost £5, but then it's the locals that are supporting Eden's events thoughout the year.

Some Londoner's are getting free tickets to the Olympic's only fair as they are having to put up with the disruption that it will cause.

Voyager2002

Incapuppy wrote: »

I would suggest that you earn more than 140 times more than the average local in these kind of places. What's your problem with that?

Also you are not bothered about 40 times more in India yet 140 times more in Sri Lanka pees you off?

Let us remember that a great many Indian earn at least 140 times more than the typical British person who visits India, yet not only do they enjoy low admission prices, they also pay a great deal less tax than is usual in the UK.

This kind of price discrimination would be fair when the cost of maintaining the attraction is partly met from taxes that are paid by locals rather than by visitors (things like income tax). It is harder to justify in countries where income tax is minimal, and where the state relies on taxation on hotel stays and other services typically used by tourists.

Voyager2002

Mr_Wang wrote: »

Last month I paid 37% tax and NI.

Filled up my car to go shopping and paid another 70% in tax. Got to Asda and paid 20% in tax.
On the way home fancied a beer and paid 11 times more in tax than a friend in Germany.

I pay about £2000 per year in council tax, and £180 in Road tax.

Decide I wanna escape it all and hit up Myrtle beach and I'm hit with £92 just for the sake of it, plus all the other taxes associated with air fares these days.

The point is it is an absolute scam, and my example is not unique - It effects everyone in this country.

But it's ok, I can feel comfort that my taxes are going to lazy $%^"$% that cant be arsed to work, or to help us fight wars we were coerced into, extra £200,000 for the queen because £35Million per year just isn't enough, to help prop up other EU countries, MP's expenses and dodgy bankers that act with absolute immunity.

You need to take your glasses of Callum, were not just getting scammed in this country, we are getting done from behind, sideways, and without lube.

No Mr Wang, the bulk of your taxes go to maintaining the systems that make it possible for you to do your job, be highly productive, and so produce so much wealth that your employer can afford to pay you as much as it does. If you don't like it, try living in a typical African country: taxes are near to zero, but because the government has no money it can't do anything, and so nothing works properly, so that time at work is mostly wasted.

GoPD

Charged £7 Admin/booking fee for a £10 ticket a couple of years ago.

To rub it in the Box Office then failed to inform the venue so I had to spend half an hour trying to get in with no ticket and a closed Box Office. In the end they let me in saying the Box Office were always doing this.

When I complained to the Box Office and said they should at least refund the booking fee as they had failed to book I was told as I got in anyway there was no problem :mad:.

callum9999

Mr_Wang wrote: »

Last month I paid 37% tax and NI.

Filled up my car to go shopping and paid another 70% in tax. Got to Asda and paid 20% in tax.
On the way home fancied a beer and paid 11 times more in tax than a friend in Germany.

I pay about £2000 per year in council tax, and £180 in Road tax.

Decide I wanna escape it all and hit up Myrtle beach and I'm hit with £92 just for the sake of it, plus all the other taxes associated with air fares these days.

The point is it is an absolute scam, and my example is not unique - It effects everyone in this country.

But it's ok, I can feel comfort that my taxes are going to lazy $%^"$% that cant be arsed to work, or to help us fight wars we were coerced into, extra £200,000 for the queen because £35Million per year just isn't enough, to help prop up other EU countries, MP's expenses and dodgy bankers that act with absolute immunity.

You need to take your glasses of Callum, were not just getting scammed in this country, we are getting done from behind, sideways, and without lube.

No, you need to stop being such an idiot... Virtually none of that is unique to the UK, and the majority of your money goes towards paying for the NHS, paying for the roads you're driving on, paying for education etc. If you feel comparing tax regimes between the UK and India, a country where people live in severe poverty and have little to no public services, is reasonable you need your head examined... Or perhaps you should just go and live in India...

Bob_the_Saver wrote: »

THE SAME STUFF, they then sell it to Europe
They catch us up,
They overtake us.

Look what has happened to Jaguar/Land Rover, bought by the Indians, MADE BY THE BRITISH (at the moment) and the company
has made in 1 year bigger profits than in all their entire histories put together. Thatcher's era talked about making the UK a knowledge based economy (ie. Johnny foreigner is not as clever as we are)
Not correct they are brighter and harder working in many cases (speaking as an ex-teacher)
The internet is changing things but if Joe public knew what retailers bought much of the stuff they buy in the shops for they would riot.
Massive mark-ups, and I mean massive are not uncommon on
non-headline items.
It all means nothing really because it's much too late.

I don't care if it's the same stuff - it's COMMON SENSE...

People in Malaysia are poor, the stuff they buy is therefore cheaper. How on earth can you not grasp that? For the final time, if you LIVED in Malaysia on a Malaysian salary - you would be worse of than the average Brit living in Britain on the average British salary. You simply CANNOT compare living expenses between poor and rich countries without taking the wages into account. Like my Australian example before (and other countries like Scandinavia), if you are Brit going to Australia, everything is really expensive. If you are an Australian on an Australian wage, everything is reasonably priced. That doesn't make it "rip off Australia" - that is merely the price a country must pay for being affluent...

Bob_the_Saver

When I see things in Asia for a fiver and I know they are shipped by the container full and sold at £50 in Europe I know the buyers in Europe are being ripped off.

Mr_Wang

callum9999 wrote: »

I don't care if it's the same stuff - it's COMMON SENSE...

People in Malaysia are poor, the stuff they buy is therefore cheaper. How on earth can you not grasp that?

Hang on.

Are you saying that if a T shirt is sold in Malaysia for £1, then sold here for £30... That's common sense and not a rip off?

dickydonkin

Incapuppy wrote: »

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Why shouldn't a poor country seek to gain revenue from tourism?

I don't think anyone is disputing that a 'poor country' should seek revenue from tourism.

Many Asian economies are in a much healthier situation than our own - including India - which even has a space programme.

It is when the locals don't reap the rewards of tourism - for example when an attraction like Siam Ocean World in Bangkok uses an ambiguous dual pricing system (using Thai numerals) where foreign tourists pay significantly more than Thai's.

Now if the 'poor locals' got a share of that, well there could be an argument for justification, but when the parent company of the attraction in question is Australian, then that argument is blown out of the water.